Talk some sense into me please.

[Jerryred94silvy]

Only decent truck V10 was the Dodge Magnum based 8.0L. Had one in a 94 long bed single cab 2wd 2500 and it had a massive amount of torque. Had a Mopar Performance ECM on it, Mopar claimed it added 50 ft/lbs of torque to the stock 450 ft/lbs and I absolutely believe it. 12-14 mpg regardless of how you drove it. Idling along, WOT burning the tires out of every stop or pulling a 10,000 lbs trailer, 12-14mpg. It was ammusing because in normal driving it would shift into the next gear at less than 2,000 rpm and the torque spike would cause the truck to jump 5-10 mph in speed during the shifts. Watch when Bill Paxton gets on the V10 in Twister and it rockets from 50-70 almost instantly without downshifting. How that 94 truck really ran. 1:10 seconds in, that was a 4x4 extended cab too. Truck had an ECM that failed (hence the cheaper mopar performance ECM), a dash that cracked and had to have the front end rebuilt at 100K, but other than that, a cracked radiator and a water pump that failed never gave any other major problems in 250K. The a/c would still freeze you out of the truck at 250K.

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Guess I’ll be looking for a a V10 dodge now....

 

[Erik the Awful]

I was at the Sebring race track many years ago and there was a huge cluster around a 53 ford truck with the hood up. When I finally got a look I found a really unusual sight. It was a Jaguar DOHC six mounted in the pickup. The owner said he had the truck body and someone gave him the wrecked Jag. The setup fit like a glove and he said it was one surprising 53 ford truck. I love the idea of insulting ford by dropping in something reliable but I'm not sure that Jag engine fit the bill. He sure had lot of fun with it though.

The Jag XK motors are pretty solid. When we originally raced my Jag it had a 4.2L XK. We didn't know it at the time, but although the radiator pressure checked good, it was full of pecan shells. We blew the head gasket, so the driver would do ten laps while whoever was crewing would fill a 5 gallon trash can with water from a lone spigot across the paddock. The driver would pull into the pits and we'd dump half a trashcan of water into the radiator and get back out on track. For the last stint, we realized the race was ending soon, so I told the driver to drive it until either the checkered flag or the tow truck. On the third lap the temp gauge pegged somewhere over 140°C (almost 300°F). He drove thirteen laps, and then drove it onto the trailer. The team I'm with now is going to Sebring next month for the 24 Hours of Lemons race. We're taking our Hatsune Miku themed BMW.

The Ford V-10 is TOTALLY out-classed by the ol' 460. What the hell was Ford thinking?

Modularity and sharing of parts. As I understand it, the 4.6, 5.4, and 6.8 all use the same pistons and accessories. The 4.6 has a shorter stroke, and the 6.8 has lower compression ratio, but the motors have the same architecture.

 

[R422b]

The Jag XK motors are pretty solid. When we originally raced my Jag it had a 4.2L XK. We didn't know it at the time, but although the radiator pressure checked good, it was full of pecan shells. We blew the head gasket, so the driver would do ten laps while whoever was crewing would fill a 5 gallon trash can with water from a lone spigot across the paddock. The driver would pull into the pits and we'd dump half a trashcan of water into the radiator and get back out on track. For the last stint, we realized the race was ending soon, so I told the driver to drive it until either the checkered flag or the tow truck. On the third lap the temp gauge pegged somewhere over 140°C (almost 300°F). He drove thirteen laps, and then drove it onto the trailer. The team I'm with now is going to Sebring next month for the 24 Hours of Lemons race. We're taking our Hatsune Miku themed BMW.


Modularity and sharing of parts. As I understand it, the 4.6, 5.4, and 6.8 all use the same pistons and accessories. The 4.6 has a shorter stroke, and the 6.8 has lower compression ratio, but the motors have the same architecture.

No actually the ford modular motors are not modular at all as in Chevy style.
A 4.6 l out of a pickup truck shares almost no compatible parts with the 4.6 l in a car. Basically nothing is compatible between any of those engines it goes all the way to the valve covers it's ridiculous they are a total typical Ford pos.


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[R422b]

Hey I need some honest opinions from all of you all.
My boss it was also my best friend is unfortunately a fordie so I had him look at that listing for that truck and he said well that mileage you start having engine troubles and I said yeah like spiders and stuff he said well probably valves and other things like that too. Anyway the point is he's discouraging me from buying it because it's too high mileage so I'm just curious if you can all give me an idea of what usually goes wrong internally and in engine related components on a Chevy 350 vortec between 250,000 and 500,000 MI.
The reason I'm asking is I want to have a real good idea of what I'm getting into because I am pretty sure I'm going to try to buy that. It's going to be pretty hard to come up with that money right now but I'm working on that. My problem is I just bought a house last week so I'm pretty much totally broke.

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[Catfish]

Oh yeah and before anybody says it would be gutless I just want it to be known that I really don't care about gutless.
If I can reliably flog the crap out of it to get myself across town in between jobs I don't care how gutless it is. I may even take the tow hitch off and sell that to help pay for the swap since it wouldn't be much of a tow rig with a 350 and already weighing 8500 lb.

Oh yeah and I would most likely try to reuse the stock Ford exhaust by just having a cheap exhaust shop weld in whatever fittings were needed to mate up the stock Chevy front half to the stock Ford back half.

My main requirement is that I have to be able to reasonably assume that the motor will last 200,000 miles. And to be clear I'm looking at brand new crate motors not junkyard used motors.

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Essentially it would be built Ford tuff with Chevy stuff. Gearheads have been doing this for decades. No computer? The 4L80E needs a computer, however if you go with a carburetor the motor won't. No as for gutless. My 350 in my 1ton hauls exactly what I want with no issues. So it really depends on how you build the motor.

 

[Schurkey]

No actually the ford modular motors are not modular at all as in Chevy style.
A 4.6 l out of a pickup truck shares almost no compatible parts with the 4.6 l in a car. Basically nothing is compatible between any of those engines it goes all the way to the valve covers it's ridiculous they are a total typical Ford pos.

It's worse than that. There's essentially two totally different designs of the POS 4.6L "Modular" engine, and they were both put into cars. I suspect they were both put into trucks, too.

Ford has two manufacturing plants building 4.6L engines--Romeo, Michigan (Romeo) and Windsor, Ontario (Windsor).

You buy a Ford car with a 4.6, you don't know which engine they installed until you inspect the vehicle.

They don't use the same parts. Blocks, cranks, pistons, camshafts, cylinder heads, etc. are different and NOT interchangeable. You can't fix a Romeo engine with Windsor parts.

Ford is the stupidest car company on Earth. I'm not saying they're the worst, I'm saying they're the stupidest. And they've got a near-psychopathic disregard for their customers.

https://lmr.com/products/mustang-46-romeo-vs-windsor-differences

 

[red98]

Hey I need some honest opinions from all of you all.
My boss it was also my best friend is unfortunately a fordie so I had him look at that listing for that truck and he said well that mileage you start having engine troubles and I said yeah like spiders and stuff he said well probably valves and other things like that too. Anyway the point is he's discouraging me from buying it because it's too high mileage so I'm just curious if you can all give me an idea of what usually goes wrong internally and in engine related components on a Chevy 350 vortec between 250,000 and 500,000 MI.
The reason I'm asking is I want to have a real good idea of what I'm getting into because I am pretty sure I'm going to try to buy that. It's going to be pretty hard to come up with that money right now but I'm working on that. My problem is I just bought a house last week so I'm pretty much totally broke.

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Check out the thread on the average mileage on our trucks, the most common answer was 200-250k, and I don't see many engine carnage threads on here.
Most of the GMT400 owners on here bought their trucks with 200k+ miles.

 

[red98]

they've got a near-psychopathic disregard for their customers.

https://lmr.com/products/mustang-46-romeo-vs-windsor-differences

AND their parts guys, guess how many times I've asked what plant a particular car was from only to be answered with "why does it matter" or some other more colorful version of that.

On the near-psychopathic disregard for customers, did you know if your Ford is more than 10 model years old, that there is no way for the dealer to get you a key code?

 

[PlayingWithTBI]

the most common answer was 200-250k, and I don't see many engine carnage threads on here.

Plus repair/rebuild parts for our OBS truck are more reasonably priced than others.

 

[454cid]

No actually the ford modular motors are not modular at all as in Chevy style.
A 4.6 l out of a pickup truck shares almost no compatible parts with the 4.6 l in a car. Basically nothing is compatible between any of those engines it goes all the way to the valve covers it's ridiculous they are a total typical Ford pos.

Modular for the manufacturer not the consumer. It probably has more to do with running the parts on the same machinery.