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That reminds me, improper torque (~30 Ft/Lbs IIRC) on it can give you false KCs too. Maybe your FSM will help on troubleshooting it...
14 ft/lbs
 

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In the meantime, would it be possible the timing chain is stretched at all, throwing off the spark timing?
Original owner up to 90k miles and sold in 2019 used it for pulling a fifth wheel camper.
 

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A stretched chain will retard timing which shouldn't cause spark knock like you seem to have. You will find a single tan wire with a connector in it that is the ESC bypass wire. Warm the engine up to operating temp. and shut it off. Hook up your timing light and disconnect the bypass wire then start the engine back up and check the timing. It should be 0-2deg advanced. Make any timing adjustment with the wire disconnected,lock the dist. back down and shut the engine off then reconnect the wire and disconnect the battery ground to erase the code set by disconnecting the bypass wire.
 

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Also, could I take a multimeter to the knock sensor to ensure it's functioning correctly?

Greetings Moss,

Measuring the DC resistance of the knock sensor with an ohmmeter will only help to
prove/disprove gross internal connection failures. The fact that the live data in
reply #12 shows that the computer is receiving a signal from the KS, which means
that we're probably past the point where a resistance reading of the KS will uncover anything.

(But even so, I still recommend the check, for at least we will know what the
problem isn't, which helps to improve our troubleshooting confidence down the
road. Not to mention this bit of data can be obtained for free.)

Reading the output of the KS with a voltmeter while tapping on the block may or
may not give you helpful troubleshooting data. (Not everyone has an overachieving
Fluke in their toolbox.) An oscilloscope would really give you the necessary resolution to
see if the KS is reacting properly to stimulus. (Versus over-reacting -- and this is the
question posed by the data graphs in reply #12?)

Problem is, this many years after it was made hardly anyone is still troubleshooting to
this level on a TBI SBC, so the only way you would be able to make an informed decision
would be if you had a 'known-good' reference knock sensor on hand that you could
swap in and then compare the results side by side with the original KS after identical
test drives.

But elsewhere in this forum we recently troubleshot a knock sensor issue, despite
having a couple of new, DOA, knock sensors from a normally trustworthy brand
thrown into the mix to make the troubleshooting just a little more challenging. :0)

If you haven't already seen this thread, if may help you become a little more familiar
with the knock sensor circuit: (New KS x 2 no bueno -- NOS KS Good)

That reminds me, improper torque (~30 Ft/Lbs IIRC) on it can give you false KCs too. Maybe your FSM will help on troubleshooting it...

^^^^ Like PlayingWithTBI said. Follow the Factory Service Manual's torque
recommendations (14 ft/lbs, see attached) and for best results, try to treat
this sensor more like it is a piezoelectric microphone instead of a lug nut
hammered on with an impact, and you should be good to go.

****

That's all I've got at the analog level for the knock sensor. I'm going to
step aside here and let some of the resident ECM/VCM tuner gurus
figure out if the knock sensor is so busy because of a over-aggressive
tune, a non-stock parts combo requiring higher octane that you are currently
feeding it, or even something as simple as 'too much of a good thing' base
timing cranked in at the distributor by some previous well-intentioned but
ham-****** mechanic. :0)

The bottom line is that since you are able to share live data, there's enough
talent & experience in this forum that a good solution should be found.

Hope you find the above helpful.

Best of luck!
 

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