What to do with these $50 steel wheels?

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Picked them up a month ago because they where cheap, and because I really like steel wheels :head3:

They are OEM 16x6-1/2 from a 91-2500.

I'm contemplating having them widened to 9 or 9-1/2" and Painted black.

Not sure if that is doable though seems there is not enough lip to start with. Also, they seem REALLY heavy, are 2500 wheels different from 1500 wheels?

1990Z71Swede, I share your enthusiasm for steel wheels. And I always notice
when I see OEM steel wheels from the side, but when I walk around to the front
or the back I see that there's a more generous tire width showing than expected?
I like that even more!

Anyway, like @RanchWelder recommended in reply #26, getting the right person
involved in widening the wheels is going to be the key to the success of the outcome.

If it was me, I would set myself up for success by doing the following in order to
end up with wheels that not only look good but also drive so smoothly that I
look forward to each & every turn behind the wheel.

1) Before I do anything, what is considered straight enough to give me a factory
smooth ride? According to the Chevy Engineers, in the Vibration troubleshooting
section of the '91 Service Manual they want to see a maximum of .040" radial
and .045" lateral runout in the customer's steelies.. (See attachments #1 & #2 below.)

2) Are the wheels I have straight enough to be a good starting point for this
project? I'd dismount the right front tire on the truck, and then cycle all 4
wheels through my new test station, looking for how straight each wheel was. (Bonus
points for actually quantifying the vertical & lateral runout with a dial indicator &
writing it down for each wheel. (example: See attachment #3)

3) OK, now *I* am ready to talk to the machinist/welder/magician. You see,
I've learned that when I've got something I really want done *right*, I have to
come across to the other guy like I've done my homework. If I show up with
no specifications & ask if they can widen my wheels, the response you get is
something like this: "well SURE, piece of cake, no big deal!" And afterwards,
no matter how much/how little you pay, it's a complete crapshoot if I get
perfect circles, egg shapes, or something inbetween from the dude.

On the other hand, when I show up with the factory specs + my own
measurements, and ask him if he has the capability to widen my wheels
and still meet the factory limits, then he knows that I know...if you know
what I mean. :) And sometimes this is the most important part of the
deal...'cuz although I'd never say that I was going to check his work, by
the same token he is already convinced that I am going to. Good!

From my perspective, I'm simply trying to figure out if this guy is willing to work
with me to achieve results that are worth the money I'm investing in the project.
(And I'm always professional & polite when discussing this stuff. I've always found
that the pros that share my enthusiasm for quality are always super easy to talk to. (!)

And you know what? Early on in this hobby I didn't do my due diligence/homework
before talking to prospective machinists, and this led to several disappointments.

But after deciding to not quit this hobby & take up golf, I got wise and
made sure that I was fully up to speed before going through the
project interview process with a unknown entity.

Bottom line? Once I ask the right questions, the guys that aren't into the
accuracy always come up with a reason why they can't do my work. And
after talking to a few folks, you find the one guy that can not only meet
the GM specs, he will tell you that he gets them a lot straighter than that!

*That's* the guy you want to do the work for you. Especially if the
local racers also sing his praises.

That's my 2¢ worth. It won't be easy, but it would be well worth the
effort. Happy hunting for the right talent --
 

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If you look around and get new tires with recessed beads, or "Rim-protecting bead" as many call them ....like a lot of off-road tires, and quite a few street and AT truck tires have nowadays, then the end look of such a tire/wheel package with your steel wheels will *appear* wider ....w/o having to spend $$ on rim modifications. And it helps achieve a more squared-shoulder tire too. It's a good way to get a wider 'look' w/o doing rim mods.

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