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every one make shore you are taking down notes @L31MaxExpress is dropping some huge and what I would think is little known and obscure info here
Seen a lot of stuff over the years. If anybody ever runs across a big brown truck in the scrap yard or being parted out, the 4.3Ls in them had Borla made stainless shorty headers on them. Borla never sold that part number to the public either only contract to UPS.

A picture of the UPS P4 chassis shorties for the 4.3L. My best guess is they swapped a lot of 4.3Ls into the older trucks too. Seen a few old enough they should have had 292s in them with carbureted 4.3Ls in them.

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My truck has 3.73's with 285's it's marginal at best, I'm sure some will talk shyt but it would be better with 4.10's Put it more in the powerband.

If the top end been done with a cam etc yeah tuning would be in order, but that's not going to fix lugging along in o/d. On/off gas constantly.
Fleet trucks amd vans mostly. I have driven a few of them, with the 4.10 gear they are not as gutless as one would assume. The base engine even in the P30 box vans was the 4.3L. The old UPS P30 dually box trucks had a 4.3L with a Q-Jet and a 4spd manual for years. They were carbureted until about 90-92.
When I lived in DE. went to state/muni auction. Fleet/municipal tracks are bare bones , no frills, stripped down trucks, no power anything. It's been a few years but some of those rusted out trucks were 3/4 ton and did some duty as salt spreaders. some had plow set -ups 40-50k mileage on them but holes in the bed you could fit your head through. bed sides flapping in the breeze. Figured I could score something to yank a drive train out But 4.3 and lighter duty 4l60 that go behind them was not what I was looking for. There just wasn't anything there.

To this day fleets can order just about any combination or lack of amenities they so choose. The dealer I got my 2019 from was known as a fleet supplier. The 19 had the smaller info screen, heat and a/c and that was about it. 4.3/8 speed/3.73. Just basic no frills, I have to move shyt around truck.

Guys that buy 80-100k decked out trucks to work, beat, abuse, and wholesale/trade off..... 3-5 years later for 30-40k maybe, have lost their minds.

You could still get a 2500 4x4 reg cab 4.3 a year or 2 ago, dealers won't order them. In 19-20 it was a 35k truck and 80k crew cab ones pay better. Offer 5 or 10k off an 80k truck and people will line up thinking there getting something for nothing.
 
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I can’t even get the tires on my suburban to break loose by power braking. But my 92 will do burnouts for distance. Everybody wants to do a smokey burnout every now and then.
 

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I can’t even get the tires on my suburban to break loose by power braking. But my 92 will do burnouts for distance. Everybody wants to do a smokey burnout every now and then.
The tired stock 305 in my 83 G20 would boil the right rear for a block, lol.
 

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My truck has 3.73's with 285's it's marginal at best, I'm sure some will talk shyt but it would be better with 4.10's Put it more in the powerband.

If the top end been done with a cam etc yeah tuning would be in order, but that's not going to fix lugging along in o/d. On/off gas constantly.

When I lived in DE. went to state/muni auction. Fleet/municipal tracks are bare bones , no frills, stripped down trucks, no power anything. It's been a few years but some of those rusted out trucks were 3/4 ton and did some duty as salt spreaders. some had plow set -ups 40-50k mileage on them but holes in the bed you could fit your head through. bed sides flapping in the breeze. Figured I could score something to yank a drive train out But 4.3 and lighter duty 4l60 that go behind them was not what I was looking for. There just wasn't anything there.

To this day fleets can order just about any combination or lack of amenities they so choose. The dealer I got my 2019 from was known as a fleet supplier. The 19 had the smaller info screen, heat and a/c and that was about it. 4.3/8 speed/3.73

Guys that buy 80-100k trucks to work, beat, abuse, and wholesale/trade off.....have lost their minds.

The 2019 Titan was a former fleet truck too. Only had ~5,000 miles on it. Love the vinyl flooring and seats as well as everything being as basic as it is. AC, PS, PB, power windows, AM/FM/Satellite/CD radio with basic screen and spray in bed liner are about the only options that truck had.

The vinyl makes it easy to clean out the red mud and this girls white fur shed. She loves getting to go on road trips and we stay in pet friendly motels. Although she really does enjoy riding behind me in the middle row captains chair of the 97 van where she can look out the large low window. I throw her bed on the seat and we roll. In the Pathfinder the middle row is usually folded down and she rides with her head on the center console.

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My truck has 3.73's with 285's it's marginal at best, I'm sure some will talk shyt but it would be better with 4.10's Put it more in the powerband.

If the top end been done with a cam etc yeah tuning would be in order, but that's not going to fix lugging along in o/d. On/off gas constantly.

When I lived in DE. went to state/muni auction. Fleet/municipal tracks are bare bones , no frills, stripped down trucks, no power anything. It's been a few years but some of those rusted out trucks were 3/4 ton and did some duty as salt spreaders. some had plow set -ups 40-50k mileage on them but holes in the bed you could fit your head through. bed sides flapping in the breeze. Figured I could score something to yank a drive train out But 4.3 and lighter duty 4l60 that go behind them was not what I was looking for. There just wasn't anything there.

To this day fleets can order just about any combination or lack of amenities they so choose. The dealer I got my 2019 from was known as a fleet supplier. The 19 had the smaller info screen, heat and a/c and that was about it. 4.3/8 speed/3.73. Just basic no frills, I have to move shyt around truck.

Guys that buy 80-100k decked out trucks to work, beat, abuse, and wholesale/trade off..... 3-5 years later for 30-40k maybe, have lost their minds.

You could still get a 2500 4x4 reg cab 4.3 a year or 2 ago, dealers won't order them. In 19-20 it was a 35k truck and 80k crew cab ones pay better. Offer 5 or 10k off an 80k truck and people will line up thinking there getting something for nothing.

My 97 van really needs a 4.10 or 4.56 even with the 30.5" tall LT245/75R16s on it and the 4L85E. I have not changed the rear gear though because 6L90E is down the road instead. The 4.03 1st will make more of a difference keeping the current 3.73 gear than regearing the thing now.
 
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