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Good price! ^^^ Sometimes it's easier to get someone that knows what they're doing to do stuff.
I wouldn't attempt a tranny rebuild! Lol! Not saying I couldn't, but my time is better spent doing what I know.
 

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If the hard panel under the fabric isn't broken, no need to throw the whole thing away.
Pull the panel & remove the fabric. Under that is 1/8" foam. That's what the fabric was originally bonded to, but the bond has deteriorated. Use a piece of 80 grit to lightly sand off that foam. Easy to do.
Then you'll need some headliner material with the foam on it. Some upholstery suppliers still call it 'Nyfoam'. That material is 54" wide, but can be stretched some.
Lay the fabric over the panel, with it about 3+ inches larger than the panel. Fold the material in 1/2 over itself & spray some spray glue (3M '90') on both exposed 1/2's. Do 2 coats, the first being a very light one. This is so that glue creates a bit of a 'skin', which stops the 2nd. coat of glue from soaking through the material.
Let dry between coatings of glue.
Fold the material back over the panel, then beginning from the center out, smooth the fabric down to the panel. The front corners where the visors go are usually a PITA, but because the glue was allowed to dry before bonding, a quick snap of the wrist while holding the edge of the fabric, will release it's bond. Repeat for the other side.
Flip the headliner over and glue the excess. Then wrap that over to hide the edges. Do not cut the fabric off with the edge of the panel. Don't worry about any bulk of the fabric or folds on the backside. Once you have all that outer edge done, go back with a razor blade and cut off that stuff.
From the backside, cut out all the required holes. Re-install back into the truck.

Would quilting foam work? Cause im at the fabric store now and cant find the nyafoam n all the old ladies are busy. But they have plenty of quilting foam.
 

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Would quilting foam work? Cause im at the fabric store now and cant find the nyafoam n all the old ladies are busy. But they have plenty of quilting foam.

Quilting foam? Not familiar.
If you can't find that H/L material (which used to be called Nyfoam. Now they just call it Headliner Fabric.) try the yellow pages under 'Upholstery Supplies'.
If you still can't find it, let me know. I'll sell materials @ cost + 10% + shipping. Works to be a bit less than, or pretty close to retail.
I'll need a sample of your's, though. 2"X2" approx. There's about 60 colors. If you were to say it's blue, or grey, I'd be looking at 2 dozen shades of each!
 

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Its the padding that goes in between the fabric of a quilt its not cotton but maybe a polyester blend and technically its not a "foam" . Im not sticking with the stock color or material. On the material I got The tag says its "truesuede" one side is print and the other is solid white backed with another material. I can pm pics if needed.
 

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Its the padding that goes in between the fabric of a quilt its not cotton but maybe a polyester blend and technically its not a "foam" . Im not sticking with the stock color or material. On the material I got The tag says its "truesuede" one side is print and the other is solid white backed with another material. I can pm pics if needed.

Yea I don't know about using that stuff. If it's what I'm picturing it as, it's similar to the filling in a ski-jacket. Kinda fiberous. Wouldn't have the structural integrity to support holding whatever material you want to use.
The H/L in my '98 is not the stock, nor the original material. I used perforated vinyl, & 1/8" closed-cell foam between that & the vinyl. Little more $$$, but it helps with the sound deadening, in addition to the 'Fat-Mat' on the metal under the H/L.
That suede should work, although it's gonna need a couple of heavier coats of glue to hold it up, due to it's extra weight as compared to the factory material. As long as a light coat or two of glue is applied then allowed to dry, the 'suede' that you're looking at will have less of a tendency to let the glue soak through it.
Closed-cell foam doesn't absorb the glue like the poly foam that is bonded to the original H/L material. So, you can do more coatings of the glue to ensure a good bond between the materials. There's a few more steps when going this route, but the finished project will last a lot longer. The foam has to be lightly sanded with 80 grit (or so) to break the skin on it. Gives something for the glue to bite into. The closed-cell also has the benefit of the sound deadening qualities.
All original style H/L materials are very lightweight. Not suitable for sewing. It won't hold a stitch without backing material, which adds weight. Without a backing to hold a stitch, my machine eats it. Gobbles it up & shreds it!
The suede that you're considering is a man-made material, which is fine. Just be aware that you're not getting the real McCoy.
Man-made suede has a backing material as you described, along with that printing on it. The backing is what gives the material it's strength. The price should reflect that it's been produced via the wonders of petroleum products & DuPont's chemistry labs!
Real suede (my cost) is around the $60.00/yard range. It's real leather! (along with 'that' wonderful smell!)
The man-made stuff should be considerably cheaper. With a slight formaldehyde/petroleum odour.
 

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Oh yeah I know its not real suede. And suede Isnt really the word I would use to describe It. lol it was only 7 something a yard but that was 40% off. And yes the stuff that is basically in a ski jacket.

So i just gotta find some foam now. Im trying to figure out wjat this foam looks like, is it like a yoga mat in a way? Or like the foam u would put on top of your mattress for extra padding that you get from wally world?
 

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Yup 20 $ for shipping for something thats only 5$ lol not good. Thanks for the link and ill do some searching around my area for it. Thank you for all your help!
 

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ive resorted to using the push in & screw plugs for my headliner... combined with the now stained and matted sections where the glue has failed to grab... it officially looks like dog poop =)
f@ck
lol

I noticed when its cold, the material is loose and when its hot, its tight as a drum and pulls away from the recessed areas....
im just nervous to take out the WHOLE 10+ feet of headliner and risk making it look even worse..... I need a step by step here or at least a material that will mate with the glue well, instead of soaking it up x(
 
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