While I was not exactly bone stock my L31 gained alot of torque from Thorley Tri-Ys. That was upgrading from shorties as well. Shorties were noticeably stronger than the log manifolds as well. Both manifolds cracked at less than 70k on the odometer. My exhaust was dual 3" basically off the manifolds to the muffler from GM. I had a marine intake and a small 206/210 Comp cam on a 110 LSA. Tuned 0411 PCM. Even shifting at 4,800 it had alot of get up and go for 3 tons of van. Even with the TCC locking up at 65 mph and shifting 2-3 with a locked converter the 350 just keeps on grunting.
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