RockAuto WAI Alternator?

[L31MaxExpress]

My thoughts on some Ex police stuff, yes you could say they are " ridden hard " . The other side of that coin is they are serviced and maintained under severe hd service guideline. And yes all is never perfect but that is the process for warranty support.
And Mr. Kran , in no way would I ever advise or recommend or suggest installing a part that was not compatible or a suitable upgrade or replacement. That was not a blanket statement that any alternator regardless of year would be compatible. It was to show that chopping up wiring is not always the best course.
Everybody is free to make there own choices, good or bad. Good luck.

My statement was more the fact that it can be done. I prefer the alternator being controlled by a P01 or P59 PCM if the vehicle is running one. Adding two wires from the alternator to the PCM is hardly butchering a harness nor is reworking the charging system wiring that was barely adequate when it was new. The PCM contols the system voltage more accurately and does some cool stuff as well, like it can raise the idle speed 150 rpm if the PCM is having to command over 80% duty cycle on the alternators field current. PCM controlling the alternator was one of the factory benifits that GM added in 2001 when they started using the P01s in the Express vans. My battery life in the van more than doubled (its nice not having a battery croak every 18 months to 2 years) and I still have the same 200a AD244 I have had on it since 2014. The voltage is much more consistent, the windows never slow to a crawl from low voltage, lights never dim, the blower motors always blows hard, etc. PCM controlling the alternator also prevents voltage spikes on WOT downshifts.

 

[jus10inbrla]

My thoughts on some Ex police stuff, yes you could say they are " ridden hard " . The other side of that coin is they are serviced and maintained under severe hd service guideline. And yes all is never perfect but that is the process for warranty support

That is for sure. My govt vehicle gets HIGH milage yearly and its pretty much in the fleet management garage at least once a month with some maintenance needed (2023 f250 cab/chassis 4x4)

 

[78Monte]

cs130D has an improvement over the CS130. (Cs130d has no external fan, and the plug is the oval like the AD series)

The plug for CS130 is the oddshaped rectangular which has a large wire on one end that keys the connector one direction. wiring order and function is the same tho

Yes, that is correct and what I meant to say. But thanks for the correction.

I'm stumped why there is no threads on this forum concerning how to wire the ad244 on a TBI lot of vague statements and conflicting information.

When I started a thread asking, I got zero replies and turned to other forums to seek info.

 

[L31MaxExpress]

Yes, that is correct and what I meant to say. But thanks for the correction.

I'm stumped why there is no threads on this forum concerning how to wire the ad244 on a TBI lot of vague statements and conflicting information.

When I started a thread asking, I got zero replies and turned to other forums to seek info.

I am confused at why you had a hard time. My AD244 plugged right into my stock 1997 harness after removing the GM adapter sub-harness for the factory CS-144 upgrade option. I added the PCM control feature later, which was adding a couple wires from the alternator to the 0411 PCM. Since I started with a CS-144, even the belt was the right length.

 

[L31MaxExpress]

Swap done, belt part number I was using. Alternator plugged into the stock harness.

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If you look close you notice the grey connector behind the short subharness that was GMs factory equipment for a CS-144 upgrade on the assembly line. Both my 97 Express and 99 Tahoe had the same GM conversion harness.

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Here are the parts that came off for the CS144 to AD244 swap. The hardest part was getting to the bolts for the brace bracket.

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[454cid]

I am confused at why you had a hard time. My AD244 plugged right into my stock 1997

I think the difference would be the OP and the person you're replying to have TBI engines, with a different alternator, and it's mounted on the driver's side of the engine. I don't think it's as straight forward, since they have an older alternator design.

I'll have to look for the conversion harnes on my truck.... I don't think I have that.

 

[jus10inbrla]

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I am confused at why you had a hard time. My AD244 plugged right into my stock 1997 harness after removing the GM adapter sub-harness for the factory CS-144 upgrade option. I added the PCM control feature later, which was adding a couple wires from the alternator to the 0411 PCM. Since I started with a CS-144, even the belt was the right length.

Our issue is TBI 88-95; not the 96 ups . Not much documentation on them.

 

[AuroraGirl]

Yes, that is correct and what I meant to say. But thanks for the correction.

I'm stumped why there is no threads on this forum concerning how to wire the ad244 on a TBI lot of vague statements and conflicting information.

When I started a thread asking, I got zero replies and turned to other forums to seek info.

Yes, that is correct and what I meant to say. But thanks for the correction.

I'm stumped why there is no threads on this forum concerning how to wire the ad244 on a TBI lot of vague statements and conflicting information.

When I started a thread asking, I got zero replies and turned to other forums to seek info.

what do you mean how to wire it? you use a cs130 to ad244 adapter harness(they have the same 4 wires just different terminals/connector shape)
Or you can cut and install new connector to altm, install charge wire.literally done

 

[AuroraGirl]

I think the difference would be the OP and the person you're replying to have TBI engines, with a different alternator, and it's mounted on the driver's side of the engine. I don't think it's as straight forward, since they have an older alternator design.

I'll have to look for the conversion harnes on my truck.... I don't think I have that.

TBI trucks came with CS144s too, just not in the same spot. CS130, CS130D, CS144, AD230, AD244 are all able to go on these trucks , you wont be putting a ad237 tho or a cs121 Id think

 

[AuroraGirl]

My statement was more the fact that it can be done. I prefer the alternator being controlled by a P01 or P59 PCM if the vehicle is running one. Adding two wires from the alternator to the PCM is hardly butchering a harness nor is reworking the charging system wiring that was barely adequate when it was new. The PCM contols the system voltage more accurately and does some cool stuff as well, like it can raise the idle speed 150 rpm if the PCM is having to command over 80% duty cycle on the alternators field current. PCM controlling the alternator was one of the factory benifits that GM added in 2001 when they started using the P01s in the Express vans. My battery life in the van more than doubled (its nice not having a battery croak every 18 months to 2 years) and I still have the same 200a AD244 I have had on it since 2014. The voltage is much more consistent, the windows never slow to a crawl from low voltage, lights never dim, the blower motors always blows hard, etc. PCM controlling the alternator also prevents voltage spikes on WOT downshifts.

Load management and battery health monitoring was very impressive on 1997-2005 park avenues too, they didtn require any sensors like 2005+ buicks and chevys started doing that BS...
And they were helpful. I Wonder if that van system is similar to what is on my PA