I can tell you the van was not overly happy with what I did with it today. I am moving my mom 100 miles from where she lives. I pulled a 24 ft enclosed tandem axle, tight packed with heavy wood furniture and heavy boxes. I yanked the middle row seats and had both the center and rear of the van packed as well. I put the shifter into 3rd, I accelerated at moderate throttle up to speed and set the cruise at 65 mph and just loafed along. The van was sure to remind me of how heavy the load was though. It hit 2nd on a couple of long grades and still held around 65 mph on cruise though. I hate to guess what the thing would have scaled, my guess would be about 2-3K more than it is with my travel trailer. I had to back down her gravel driveway loaded and all 8 tires were slipping a bit. On the way back despite a fair headwind I was able to tow the empty trailer in overdrive most of the way, loafing along at 72 mph and 1,900 rpm. Averaged 9 mpg for the trip, not bad for a gasser moving probably 15K overall. At one point the trip average was around 7 mpg when I looked at it fully loaded. This trip reminded me of how badly I need to get on putting 4.10s in the thing as well as the 6spd swap.