4 Row radiator install, small problem, help needed.

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Seosamh

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Hello all.
I'm looking for a source or part number for what I believe is a 1/2" UNF male x 1/2" SPT female adapter. Looked on line for hours with no proper result. I don't want to take the easy way by cutting off the oem threaded end fitting. Maybe I'm using the wrong key words in my search for the end that requires an O-ring. Any reply would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.

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he Fitting in the photo is what the Radiator came with, the opposite end of it is the quick release type.
 

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There's a lot going on there...

a British pipe thread (BSPP, UNF, and other o-ring pipe threads) are always o-ringed on the flange, not in inside mating surface.

And that fitting that came with the radiator looks like it has the same geometry of a flared brake line. I spent some time on McMaster trying to find that style fitting with an o-ring on the inside and nothing is showing anything resembling that fitting. The only thing it looks like is a large double flared 45 degree fitting (Brake line) that they stuffed an o-ring in for some reason.

Click on the top "How to measure pipe fittings" tab on the top of this page...

And lastly, does that radiator come with a good return policy? If so, please consider using it before it expires. There are multiple things going on in your pics and it being 4-core aluminum that makes it a wallet-lightening marketing display piece. There are much better options out there.
 

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4-core aluminum isnt needed unless its 6" thick. 4-Core was only needed back in the brass radiator days. Brass would burst after 5/8" wide cores, Aluminum can handle 1.5" easily. More cores equals more turbulence which means more resistance and less cooling efficiency.

... only one of the reasons I would highly recommend return it ASAP.

After looking over your post again, I almost bet that adaptor that came with the radiator is a 45 degree flared compression fitting to Ny-Lock push-lock adaptor. Nobody ever uses push-lock for engine oil or trans oil for very obvious reasons.
 

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Isn't that the same style of fitting as used on GM PS gears and GM fuel plumbing? Perhaps not the same size--although it might be.

Similar to the O-ring end of THIS:
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www.summitracing.com/parts/dsr-090202lds

You'd need the O-ring end with the right threads and O-ring size, and the female end able to accept an inverse flare of the correct thread size and tubing diameter.





As said, a "4-row" aluminum radiator is just silly.
 

Seosamh

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There's a lot going on there...

a British pipe thread (BSPP, UNF, and other o-ring pipe threads) are always o-ringed on the flange, not in inside mating surface.

And that fitting that came with the radiator looks like it has the same geometry of a flared brake line. I spent some time on McMaster trying to find that style fitting with an o-ring on the inside and nothing is showing anything resembling that fitting. The only thing it looks like is a large double flared 45 degree fitting (Brake line) that they stuffed an o-ring in for some reason.

Click on the top "How to measure pipe fittings" tab on the top of this page...

And lastly, does that radiator come with a good return policy? If so, please consider using it before it expires. There are multiple things going on in your pics and it being 4-core aluminum that makes it a wallet-lightening marketing display piece. There are much better options out there.
Thanks for your help. I was getting ready to weld a 1/2" 20 female fitting to the adapter in the photo when I realized the adapter it came with is two piece. I unthreaded the quick release part and now all that is needed is common 1/2" 20 NPT female x 5/8" male adapter. Embarrassing that I didn't notice this sooner rather than wasting everyone's time here in the forum.
 

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Isn't that the same style of fitting as used on GM PS gears and GM fuel plumbing? Perhaps not the same size--although it might be.

Similar to the O-ring end of THIS:
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www.summitracing.com/parts/dsr-090202lds

You'd need the O-ring end with the right threads and O-ring size, and the female end able to accept an inverse flare of the correct thread size and tubing diameter.





As said, a "4-row" aluminum radiator is just silly.
Thanks for your help. I was getting ready to weld a 1/2" 20 female fitting to the adapter in the photo when I realized the adapter it came with is two piece. I unthreaded the quick release part and now all that is needed is common 1/2" 20 NPT female x 5/8" male adapter. Embarrassing that I didn't notice this sooner rather than wasting everyone's time here in the forum.
 

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4-core aluminum isnt needed unless its 6" thick. 4-Core was only needed back in the brass radiator days. Brass would burst after 5/8" wide cores, Aluminum can handle 1.5" easily. More cores equals more turbulence which means more resistance and less cooling efficiency.

... only one of the reasons I would highly recommend return it ASAP.

After looking over your post again, I almost bet that adaptor that came with the radiator is a 45 degree flared compression fitting to Ny-Lock push-lock adaptor. Nobody ever uses push-lock for engine oil or trans oil for very obvious reasons.
Thanks for your help. I was getting ready to weld a 1/2" 20 female fitting to the adapter in the photo when I realized the adapter it came with is two piece. I unthreaded the quick release part and now all that is needed is common 1/2" 20 NPT female x 5/8" male adapter. Embarrassing that I didn't notice this sooner rather than wasting everyone's time here in the forum.
 
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