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[618 Syndicate]

That's great and all but by the time they arrive they'll be so loaded with tech and BS they'll suck ass to drive.

So people will figure out how to modify that **** too. Some tech (launch control for example) makes **** even more fun.
I like fast ****. I don't really care about brand, vehicle type, country of origin, or power plant. I have American trucks, Japanese bikes, and a German car.

I get it, internal combustion engines are what we're comfortable with, what we grew up on, and change can be difficult to accept. I love the ones I have. And I'll love the electric performance motors that I'll have in the future equally.

 

[618 Syndicate]

Sadly, yes. But the enthusiasts will find a way to eliminate the BS and keep the important bits. Companies like EV West are already modifying and transplanting Tesla drivetrains into 90's BMWs and building race cars out of them.

I do have my doubts that EVs are really the economic solution that everyone makes them out to be, but I have no doubt that people will make them fun to drive.

The way we generate electricity negates most of the gains EVs provide, so no, they're not the energy solution they're being sold as.

But you're right, people will make them fun.

 

[Supercharged111]

So people will figure out how to modify that **** too. Some tech (launch control for example) makes **** even more fun.
I like fast ****. I don't really care about brand, vehicle type, country of origin, or power plant. I have American trucks, Japanese bikes, and a German car.

I get it, internal combustion engines are what we're comfortable with, what we grew up on, and change can be difficult to accept. I love the ones I have. And I'll love the electric performance motors that I'll have in the future equally.

The cost to do so has been going up up up. And you might have missed the part where, a few years ago, GM claimed the onboard controllers were their intellectual property. OEMs are locking their stuff down harder and harder. I believe there will come a day when you just can't mod your own stuff. If gasoline gets cost prohibitive an electric power train swap may be the way to go. But we're talking a ways into the future. Far enough to know that what transpires there is uncertain.

 

[BonestockK1500]

Imagine the possibility in technology...the manufacturer provides the base platform, the consumer designs the body online and it is 3D printed and bolted to the base platform. A million people can have the same exact car for the same exact price with 1 million custom body styles. The future is here. And if I live long enough to see it I’ll have a brand new 2047 model year 1989 K1500 RCLB on an EV platform or some other maintenance free mechanical platform.

 

[618 Syndicate]

The cost to do so has been going up up up. And you might have missed the part where, a few years ago, GM claimed the onboard controllers were their intellectual property. OEMs are locking their stuff down harder and harder. I believe there will come a day when you just can't mod your own stuff. If gasoline gets cost prohibitive an electric power train swap may be the way to go. But we're talking a ways into the future. Far enough to know that what transpires there is uncertain.

I didn't miss that. Other manufacturers have locked their ecu's for years. Folks find ways around it. Always have, always will.
The one thing about the future that is absolutely certain is that it's coming, and bringing change with it. Embrace it or fight it.

 

[df2x4]

The cost to do so has been going up up up. And you might have missed the part where, a few years ago, GM claimed the onboard controllers were their intellectual property. OEMs are locking their stuff down harder and harder. I believe there will come a day when you just can't mod your own stuff. If gasoline gets cost prohibitive an electric power train swap may be the way to go. But we're talking a ways into the future. Far enough to know that what transpires there is uncertain.

This is a really good point, and I thought about it as I was typing my last post in here. I agree that OEMs are locking things down harder than ever, but I feel like no matter how much of that takes place there will always be some smart MFer who figures it out. Once again, look at EV West. They're already hacking the programming in those Tesla drivetrains and over-driving the motors by a significant percentage. It may take some time, but if there's a significant demand someone will find a way.

 

[Supercharged111]

The cost to unlock the stuff keeps going up though. It's going to hit a point where you just can't afford it. Cracking a new ZR1 I believe is over $3000. Granted if you can swing 6 figures to get a ZR1 you can probably handle the cost to tune it as well, but you get the idea. It's a helluva lot more than the $600 or so the local shop gets to dynotune a 3rd gen LS. Don't forget about the great reset ending property ownership. That's gonna be a bit hokey IMO. Who knows? Maybe the little guy will gain some ground in cracking this stuff in the future? I kinda doubt it though, the guys making this stuff have vast resources. It won't happen overnight. I don't like new stuff now, so I doubt I'll like it in the future. Instead of fighting or embracing it, I think I'll avoid it as long as I can. If I manage to hit it big in the futire then I'll stop caring. This is all about me being a cheapass driving old, sub-$10,000 trucks so I can have enough disposable money to race and camp and stuff.

 

[df2x4]

The cost to unlock the stuff keeps going up though. It's going to hit a point where you just can't afford it. Cracking a new ZR1 I believe is over $3000. Granted if you can swing 6 figures to get a ZR1 you can probably handle the cost to tune it as well, but you get the idea. It's a helluva lot more than the $600 or so the local shop gets to dynotune a 3rd gen LS. Don't forget about the great reset ending property ownership. That's gonna be a bit hokey IMO. Who knows? Maybe the little guy will gain some ground in cracking this stuff in the future? I kinda doubt it though, the guys making this stuff have vast resources. It won't happen overnight. I don't like new stuff now, so I doubt I'll like it in the future. Instead of fighting or embracing it, I think I'll avoid it as long as I can. If I manage to hit it big in the futire then I'll stop caring. This is all about me being a cheapass driving old, sub-$10,000 trucks so I can have enough disposable money to race and camp and stuff.

I'm with you there. Modifying anything new is expensive, period. And I really don't want to spend time and money removing all the previously mentioned BS. I'm perfectly happy driving my '97 fossil fuel guzzling trucks with no OnStar or other fancy methods for people to track my whereabouts. I seriously doubt I'll ever own anything newer. Older if anything, I need an 80's G body Buick in my life.

 

[618 Syndicate]

The cost to unlock the stuff keeps going up though. It's going to hit a point where you just can't afford it. Cracking a new ZR1 I believe is over $3000. Granted if you can swing 6 figures to get a ZR1 you can probably handle the cost to tune it as well, but you get the idea. It's a helluva lot more than the $600 or so the local shop gets to dynotune a 3rd gen LS. Don't forget about the great reset ending property ownership. That's gonna be a bit hokey IMO. Who knows? Maybe the little guy will gain some ground in cracking this stuff in the future? I kinda doubt it though, the guys making this stuff have vast resources. It won't happen overnight. I don't like new stuff now, so I doubt I'll like it in the future. Instead of fighting or embracing it, I think I'll avoid it as long as I can. If I manage to hit it big in the futire then I'll stop caring. This is all about me being a cheapass driving old, sub-$10,000 trucks so I can have enough disposable money to race and camp and stuff.

Everything costs more, the prices of new vehicles themselves are ****** outta hand. I have faith that people will figure out how to do **** affordably, technology tends to get less expensive as availability increases. Don't forget, the stuff you (and I) like now was new tech once as well, and aftermarket options were far more limited. The first 400 I owned was a 95 cclbd that I bought in 96, I don't like custom paint so a 5/7 drop, Alcoas, tint and stereo was about all there was to do.

I'm a cheap ass too, I don't camp but I love to race and have to allocate my budget carefully. It's better as the kids get older and gtfo but I'll never have enough money to not care.

 

[letitsnow]

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