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I'll add that I got a set of stock headlight housings off amazon for like $60. Did the 4-hi conversion, installed silverstars in the low beams and HID's in the high beams only (so I can turn them off for oncoming drivers) and a set of LED driving lights. The light output is amazing over stock.
 

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Here's the headlights. I have had glare caps on my last set of glass and my new set I just bought. I hated my glass headlight housings ever since I bought them. They sat in the grill crooked and stuck out past the grill. They were a different size square hole for adjusters than stock, so I couldn't use the stock adjusters. These new ones fit perfect. I tried Silver Stars for about a year and a half and got sick of replacing them at $50 a set about every 8 months or so. Went to HID's and have never regretted it. Light output is awesome and they are the same color as Silver Stars. Going on 2 years without a problem. I would have spent $150 on Silver stars by now. When my HID's give me a problem maybe I'll try HIR's. But DDM has HID kit for $30 that has lasted 2 years I am pretty happy with. I don't know why these loaded sideways. I don't like how dark the front markers are. They didn't look that dark in the picture when I ordered them.
 
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It's not like I'm looking to get 8000k HIDs, kind of just want something wth better light output with housings that can tame the light and keep it under control. Seems to be an issue trying to find a good looking set of housings that will work well with HIDs on these trucks. Anyone care to fill me in on HIRs? I did research a while ago but kind of dropped it when I started digging into the motor.
 

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Here's the headlights. I have had glare caps on my last set of glass and my new set I just bought. I hated my glass headlight housings ever since I bought them. They sat in the grill crooked and stuck out past the grill. They were a different size square hole for adjusters than stock, so I couldn't use the stock adjusters. These new ones fit perfect. I tried Silver Stars for about a year and a half and got sick of replacing them at $50 a set about every 8 months or so. Went to HID's and have never regretted it. Light output is awesome and they are the same color as Silver Stars. Going on 2 years without a problem. I would have spent $150 on Silver stars by now. When my HID's give me a problem maybe I'll try HIR's. But DDM has HID kit for $30 that has lasted 2 years I am pretty happy with. I don't know why these loaded sideways. I don't like how dark the front markers are. They didn't look that dark in the picture when I ordered them.

They're not too bad. They are without a glare cap? I was also looking at the DDM HIDs. Seems that's what most people go with.
 

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These have glare caps. And that pic is about 40' from the fence. I was also thinking of trying LED's, but it looked like you had to modify the support bracket to make them fit our trucks. And with my HID's still working, I put them in these new housings.
 

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For most of the LED's you'll find on the market today you'll need to not only open up the headlight bracket but the core support too. Not much work and nothing severe. I did it to my '94 C2500LD and '97 Suburban. You're just enlarging holes that are already there.

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I run Anzos in both of my truck and I've had no issues... Also $250?? They're $90 brand new. You're probably right about them being made in the same factories as the no-name ones, but IMO you pay a little more for the Anzos because they have better QC. That and the fact that you can buy them from reputable distributors like Summit and Jegs who have excellent customer service.

I agree about only running HIDs if you have a glare cap in the low beams, though. Projector retrofit would be even better. Way too many people do improper HID installs.

The Anzos I'm running were almost $200 for the headlight housings alone. Then add parking lamps and side markers and you're real close to $250. I hope you can pardon me for not itemizing the $250 cost breakdown, and for not buying whatever Anzo housings are $90.


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It's not like I'm looking to get 8000k HIDs, kind of just want something wth better light output with housings that can tame the light and keep it under control. Seems to be an issue trying to find a good looking set of housings that will work well with HIDs on these trucks. Anyone care to fill me in on HIRs? I did research a while ago but kind of dropped it when I started digging into the motor.
I'll be 100% honest with you here where some may not be.

HID's = brightest light you can buy. Technically illegal to retrofit. Hard to get good output in a housing that wasn't specifically designed for them, but the glare can be cut down by using housings with "glare caps." The catch here is that while a normal 9006 halogen has a black-painted tip, the aftermarket HID capsule will not (though some OEM ones do.) This lets light come right out the front of the bulb into people's faces instead of back into the reflector in the housing. Glare caps in the housing cut down on this. Still, the light pattern is not ideal for a reflector housing and you'll still have excessive glare regardless of the caps.

HIR's = used in some OEM applications as has been mentioned. It's still a halogen type bulb, just brighter than regular halogens. You can get them from many sources including Home Depot, believe it or not, and they even have them for the usual price you'll find anywhere else. You'll need to do some very simple trimming on one lock tab to make them fit where a 9006 belongs. Are they much brighter than a 9006 halogen? Ehhh, not in my experience, and I did try them. An HD relay harness might help improve output a bit, but I still was less than impressed with the HIR output. It should be noted the HIR's also do not have the black painted tip like a 9006 so using them with housings that have glare caps is recommended.

LED's = can be fairly bright if you spend enough money on them, run very cool, don't draw a lot of power, and are "instant on" with no warm-up like an HID. Some don't require any external module and plug directly in, others have a power supply module similar in size/shape to an HID ballast so you'll need to mount it somewhere. Some have a heat sink with a small fan (which I don't care for), some have a larger heat sink with no fan (a little harder to fit but seem sturdier than a tiny fan), others have this weird bundled-up braided ribbon heat sink which may give you some more flexibility with the space you can mount the light in. Do beware that some LED's sold as headlights are NOT bright enough for the job! They also can tend to suffer from the same issue as HID's in that they are not really designed with proper optics in mind so you may end up with lots of glare and a poor pattern. Also recommended that you use housings with glare caps. BTW these are probably also not technically legal.

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So it's sounding like HIDs are the way to go if I want something brighter than stock. Glare caps are pretty much essential which I knew from previous research. I could look for projector headlights but most don't look good by any means...IMO. Anyway thanks for the run down. Maybe I could stumble across a decent looking set of projectors or just go with the housings like the ones 1999gmc has. Either way lots of great info. Really sucks the TYC's aren't available anymore. Judging by old posts, they were the way to go.
 

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The Anzos I'm running were almost $200 for the headlight housings alone. Then add parking lamps and side markers and you're real close to $250. I hope you can pardon me for not itemizing the $250 cost breakdown, and for not buying whatever Anzo housings are $90.

I've got less than $250 in all of the exterior lights on my red truck before you factor in a trip to the body shop to tint my tails. They're all Anzo except the corners, even the 3rd brake light.

I'm not trying to be an ass, like I said I agree with most of what you said. I'm just telling you that if you paid $200 for Anzo headlights you got ripped off badly.

EDIT - I stand corrected, there is one pair of Anzos that is remotely in that price range. The rest are quite a bit less.

http://www.amazon.com/AnzoUSA-111299-Low-Brow-Headlight-Chevrolet/dp/B00KDMMKAI

(I just pasted the link because for some reason the forum is changing all of my Amazon links...)
 
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