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Hello, I just helped my friend bag his truck on MMW's, and we still had to pie cut the frame behind the bag pocket, and his were the standard way they come, which moves the wheel forward 3/4 of an inch and in 3/4 of an inch, he is layed out on a 29.7 tall tire, just barely bigger than stock, we also had to tub the firewall a lot because of the 3/4 in. per side narrowed track width. On top of all of that there is no steering stop like I am used to on tubular arms, and the shock mount angle on them is terrible, I will have to think hard about it before I would buy a set of flat arms over tubular ones again.