1990 454SS, Real or Fake?

[FastOrange]

http://bc.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles...x-454-SS-Pickup-Truck-1500-W0QQAdIdZ533866802

at first glance this seemed legit, but now im wondering, wrong rubstrip down sides, chrome front bumper painted black, wrong valve covers (or engine), some Canadian trucks did get the dumbo mirrors.

thoughts?

 

[Darkrider]

Looks like a legit 454SS but it may have been in a wreck and/or demolded at one point in its life...thats about the only way i can imagine the incorrect side trim and front bumper.

 

[FastOrange]

sent him email asking for pic of rear diff and what speed trans it has, should have a 14-bolt and a 3-speed (THM400)

 

[FastOrange]

Looks like a legit 454SS but it may have been in a wreck and/or demolded at one point in its life...thats about the only way i can imagine the incorrect side trim and front bumper.

it does, but why not mention it in the add? seems suspicious?

 

[Darkrider]

it does, but why not mention it in the add? seems suspicious?

Maybe the current owner doesnt know what its supposed to have? Who knows how many owners it has had over the years. And yea if it doesnt have the 14 bolt and TH400 i would def suspect something is up.

 

[bluex]

Just get the vin number, that will tell you since those are the only half tons with a 454 engine code....

 

[MUCKER15]

For the 454 ss forum , hope this helps , I looked at a ss with a step side body a few years ago I was sure was a fake but they did come that way

First Digit:
1 - U.S. Built
2 - Canadian Built
3 - Mexican Built


Second Digit:
G - General Motors


Third Digit:
A - Chevy Bus, van with 4 seats
B - Chevy Incomplete
C - Chevy Truck
D - GMC Incomplete
J - GMC Bus
K - GMC MPV
N - Chevy MPV
T - GMC Truck


4th Digit: GVWR/Brake System
B - 3001-4000 Hydraulic
C - 4001-5000 Hydraulic
D - 5001-6000 Hydraulic
E - 6001-7000 Hydraulic
F - 7001-8000 Hydraulic
G - 8001-9000 Hydraulic
H - 9001-10000 Hydraulic
J - 10001-14000 Hydraulic
K - 14001-16000 Hydraulic


5th Digit: Line/Chassis Type
C - Conventional Cab/4x2
R - Conventional Cab/4x2
D - Military Truck/4x4
K - Conventional Cab/4x4
V - Conventional Cab/4x2
G - Van/4x2
P - Forward Control/4x2
S - Sm Conventional Cab/4x2
T - Sm Conventional Cab/4x4
M - Sm Van/4x2
L - Sm Van/4x4
H - Chassis Cutaway/4x2


6th Digit:
1 - 1/2 Ton
2 - 3/4 Ton
3 - 1 Ton


7th Digit:
0 - Chassis Only
1 - Hi-Cube/Cutaway Van
2 - Forward Control
3 - Four-Door Cab
4 - Two-Door Cab
5 - Van
6 - Suburban
7 - Motor Home Chassis
8 - Utility (Blazer/Jimmy)
9 - Extended Cab


8th Digit: Engine Type and Make
Code Producer Type RPO
B CPC 4.3L V6 TBI LU2
C CPC 6.2L V8 DIESEL LH6
E CPC-NORTH 2.5L L4 TBI LN8
H CPC 5.0L V8 TBI LO3
J CPC 6.2L V8 DIESEL LL4
K CPC 5.7L V8 TBI LO5
M CPC 5.7L V8 4 BBL LT9
N CPC 7.4L V8 TBI L19
P CUMMINS 3.9L DIESEL LST
R CPC 2.8L V6 TBI LL2
T CPC 4.8L L6 1 BBL L25
W CPC 7.4L V8 4 BBL LE8
Z CPC 4.3L V6 TBI LB4


9th Digit: Check Digit
No Description


10th Digit: Year
L - 1990
no other listings


11th Digit: Assembly Plant
B - Baltimore, MD
E - Pontiac East, MI
F - Flint, MI
J - Janesville, WI
S - St. Louis, MO
V - Pontiac, MI
Z - Fort Wayne, IN
O - Pontiac, MI
1 - Oshawa, ON
2 - Moraine, OH
3 - Detroit, MI
4 - Scarborough, ON
5 - London, ON
7 - Lordstown, OH
8 - Shreveport, LA


The remaining 6 digits are the Production Sequence Number, I have no
idea how this breaks down, if someone can figure it out let me know.

 

[FastOrange]

For the 454 ss forum , hope this helps , I looked at a ss with a step side body a few years ago I was sure was a fake but they did come that way

First Digit:
1 - U.S. Built
2 - Canadian Built
3 - Mexican Built


Second Digit:
G - General Motors


Third Digit:
A - Chevy Bus, van with 4 seats
B - Chevy Incomplete
C - Chevy Truck
D - GMC Incomplete
J - GMC Bus
K - GMC MPV
N - Chevy MPV
T - GMC Truck


4th Digit: GVWR/Brake System
B - 3001-4000 Hydraulic
C - 4001-5000 Hydraulic
D - 5001-6000 Hydraulic
E - 6001-7000 Hydraulic
F - 7001-8000 Hydraulic
G - 8001-9000 Hydraulic
H - 9001-10000 Hydraulic
J - 10001-14000 Hydraulic
K - 14001-16000 Hydraulic


5th Digit: Line/Chassis Type
C - Conventional Cab/4x2
R - Conventional Cab/4x2
D - Military Truck/4x4
K - Conventional Cab/4x4
V - Conventional Cab/4x2
G - Van/4x2
P - Forward Control/4x2
S - Sm Conventional Cab/4x2
T - Sm Conventional Cab/4x4
M - Sm Van/4x2
L - Sm Van/4x4
H - Chassis Cutaway/4x2


6th Digit:
1 - 1/2 Ton
2 - 3/4 Ton
3 - 1 Ton


7th Digit:
0 - Chassis Only
1 - Hi-Cube/Cutaway Van
2 - Forward Control
3 - Four-Door Cab
4 - Two-Door Cab
5 - Van
6 - Suburban
7 - Motor Home Chassis
8 - Utility (Blazer/Jimmy)
9 - Extended Cab


8th Digit: Engine Type and Make
Code Producer Type RPO
B CPC 4.3L V6 TBI LU2
C CPC 6.2L V8 DIESEL LH6
E CPC-NORTH 2.5L L4 TBI LN8
H CPC 5.0L V8 TBI LO3
J CPC 6.2L V8 DIESEL LL4
K CPC 5.7L V8 TBI LO5
M CPC 5.7L V8 4 BBL LT9
N CPC 7.4L V8 TBI L19
P CUMMINS 3.9L DIESEL LST
R CPC 2.8L V6 TBI LL2
T CPC 4.8L L6 1 BBL L25
W CPC 7.4L V8 4 BBL LE8
Z CPC 4.3L V6 TBI LB4


9th Digit: Check Digit
No Description


10th Digit: Year
L - 1990
no other listings


11th Digit: Assembly Plant
B - Baltimore, MD
E - Pontiac East, MI
F - Flint, MI
J - Janesville, WI
S - St. Louis, MO
V - Pontiac, MI
Z - Fort Wayne, IN
O - Pontiac, MI
1 - Oshawa, ON
2 - Moraine, OH
3 - Detroit, MI
4 - Scarborough, ON
5 - London, ON
7 - Lordstown, OH
8 - Shreveport, LA


The remaining 6 digits are the Production Sequence Number, I have no
idea how this breaks down, if someone can figure it out let me know.

i dont have the VIN, thats the thing! and i dont think any 454SS's came with a stepside...

http://www.454ss.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1292104339/0

 

[eric.s.t]

the valve covers are right... Canada did have the dumbo mirrors most of the 454's around here are all dumbos... But one thing, even the grille looks like their chrome on it. So either it was wrecked, or someone liked chrome so he swapped it then realized how stupid it looked so he painted the grille/bumper.. lol

 

[eric.s.t]

i dont have the VIN, thats the thing! and i dont think any 454SS's came with a stepside...

http://www.454ss.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1292104339/0

same... special order? mind you... its easy to change ...