Dynomat, fatmat.... other ideas..

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Dynamat, the price is way to high to even bother trying to buy. Ive heard of fatmat, That stuff seems reasonable. I have someone that mentioned..... Heavy duty self adhered waterproof membrane for foundation walls. Home depot sells the "blueskin" http://www.homedepot.ca/product/bakor-blueskin-wp-200/901746 My parents have used it for the foundation on our walls up north here, and the product is just as thick as the dynamat or fatmat. the blue skin has a blue lining instead of the "foil" skin. But i hear Rona has the "foil" skin on it. Is their a reason why we need the fail skin on top? any one have used or heard of someone using it?
 

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The foil is for heat reflection. I use Fatmat. Bought 2 boxes of 2 rolls each off of C/L. Enough to do both of my trucks, plus some. Did inside of the doors outer skin, & outside of the inner panel, roof, floor, back wall, pillars & kick panels. I spent $350.00. I also put a 1/2" layer of closed-cell (neoprene) on the back wall over the Fatmat, plus a 1/8" layer on the floor on top of the Fatmat, under the carpet underlay. Sorry, no pix. I did this a while ago & never thought to take any.
This made the interior 'dead', like a recording studio. Much, much more quiet. Especially noticeable when jumping outa my buddy's bare bones W/T 4X4 & into my truck. Night & day diff!
I've used stuff called brownbag. Worked fine for me, but I've heard some not-so-good reviews of that.
 

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Rattle trap is good that's what I used bout 150 to do panels front back and headliner.. I heard from a guy there is some roofing stuff at lowes or hme depot that's really cheap and does the same it's foil backed and for roofing but never looked into it...
 

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Rattle trap is good that's what I used bout 150 to do panels front back and headliner.. I heard from a guy there is some roofing stuff at lowes or hme depot that's really cheap and does the same it's foil backed and for roofing but never looked into it...

Your talking about "Peal N Seal" its a roofing seam sealer. A lot of people claim that its the same thing but its really not, its basically foil backed tar and will make your truck smell like a fresh roof lol and its not really much cheaper if you buy enough to do it right. I don't recommend it at all.

I used fat mat in my truck and it works great. I used about 125 sq ft in my truck doing double layers on the doors, roof, back wall, and did 4 layers on the floor. My trucks stereo hit 132.7 on an official USCAI meter at the kick panel which isint loud compared to some but you can't hear a thing outside you just see the windows flexing lol. :head3:

I would go with fat mat or elemental designs eDead sound deadening if you on a budget both are great quality products and a good price.
 

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FatMat (I hear) is where it's at.

I'll be using that on my flooring here shortly. With a layer of CCF (as Sewlow had mentioned) on top.




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Fatmat is excellent, ive used 2 layers on my roof, and door panels, used it to stop the speaker grilles rattling, dome light bracket, trip panels, secured my temp mirror wires (recommend using some metal tape too) and im gonna do at least 2 layers on my floor when i save up for a new carpet ( found that springs/shocks, leds, bikes, and guns have distracted me) but its worked great, amazon seems to have the best price, id recommend the 8mil stuff, im also thinking of doing some under the hood but im not sure it it will stand up to the socal heat, if you got the cash, hushmat is ****, hands down the best ive seen imo it kills dynomat but its pricey, ive seen it stand up to vegas summers and remain pristine, fatmat is great but if its 110 outside for most of your summer im not sure it would be intact in the fall.
Be sure to thoroughly clean all the surfaces with rubbing alcohol to get all grime, dust, and oils off, just like painting, prep is key
 

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Your talking about "Peal N Seal" its a roofing seam sealer. A lot of people claim that its the same thing but its really not, its basically foil backed tar and will make your truck smell like a fresh roof lol and its not really much cheaper if you buy enough to do it right. I don't recommend it at all.

I used fat mat in my truck and it works great. I used about 125 sq ft in my truck doing double layers on the doors, roof, back wall, and did 4 layers on the floor. My trucks stereo hit 132.7 on an official USCAI meter at the kick panel which isint loud compared to some but you can't hear a thing outside you just see the windows flexing lol. :head3:

I would go with fat mat or elemental designs eDead sound deadening if you on a budget both are great quality products and a good price.

Cool thanks for the info wouldn't want my truck to smell like tar! I used rattle trap xl they guy I got it from sold me 150 sqft for a 100 bucks and works great. I did floors and panels. Just need to do top under headliner
 

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I'm looking into tackling the sound deadening in my Suburban this weekend. Where do you guys recommend getting the closed-cell foam? I'm having a little trouble finding it. I also had someone recommend a layer of the 3M rubber undercoating on the door panels. Has anyone else tried this?
 

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Do you mean on the backside of the plastic D/P.'s? I would't go too crazy with that. A light coat would be O.K. Make sure that all the door panel clips are there & in good shape. The undercoating will add weight which may not seem to be too much, but through the vibrations of just driving & the bumps of manhole covers, potholes, etc, & that bit of weight magnifies itself pretty good. You'll need all the clips to hold the heavier panel nice & tight up against the door itself. I found that if my door panels, with no coating, are missing even just 2 clips, the door panels will rattle & shake over some of the bigger bumps.

On the inside of the outer door skin, I like to install deadener the same way as the way I did this headliner. 3 strips first. These ones are 6" wide. Inside the door I'd go 4". I run them across the longest distance. Like putting your hand across a guitar's strings to silence them.
Three is the minimum amount of strips. You could do five, or seven. But that's overkill. I only get up to those numbers on something like a '65/'66 Impala's headliner. (They're huge!) The reason for the odd number of strips is that this cancels out any vibrations/reverberations/resonances. Whatever you want to call'em. The first one is the center one. In the center of whatever panel your doing.. The others are centered from the outside edge of the first strip, to the outside of the panel.

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Then those strips get covered as completely as possible with more deadener.

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Once the rest of the metal inner door panel is installed, I'll cover that with deadener just to inside of the mounting-pin holes. Over the bolts & all. Even the vents at the bottom of the inner door. Once that's on, I'll go back with an exacto knife & cut all those out. You'll have to cut around the metal plate that the armrest mounts to. You'll end up with a hole above that. Cover it up with some more deadener. Can't find a pic of that right now.
If you ever have to remove that inner metal panel, you will have cut the deadener around the panel to get it off.
65-70% of road noise comes through the doors. That's why I spend so much time on them. Your door pins have to be good shape to handle this extra weight.

Here's the back wall in my blue truck. And a lesson learned. Don't try to do it in one piece. I tried. Check the wrinkles! 1/4 sections at a time works way better! Start from one side to the other & don't try to stick it in position all at once. Get about the first inch of one side stuck on, then while holding the other end away from the panel, work the deadener into the shapes of the wall from one side to the other. Overlapping the deadener is good. Not much, 1/2-1" works. I think that that adds to the integrity of the deadener.

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Yea, I did this with the seat in! Jack too. When I do the floor I'll fill in any spots I missed.

I then covered the back wall with 1/2" closed cell. This stuff's pretty thick. This is the only place that I would use it.

The foam has a a 'skin' on one side. This is the side that gets glued. I break the skin with something like 60 grit sandpaper. This time I used a wire brush. Side to side, corner to corner. This gives the glue something to grip.

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I buy industrial glue by the 5gal. pail & spray it through a paint gun. Too much for you, obviously! Do not use an aerosol glue for this. It will not hold. Use '3M' Automotive Trim Adhesive. Comes in a black tube. Probably need 3 tubes to do the back wall. For some rason, the black is more expebsive than the yellow. It's the smae damn stuff!
Spread it out thinly with a putty knife on both the back wall & the foam. Let it dry to touch. Follow the same procedure as the deadener, but dont over lap it.

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I found on mine that I when took the foam just up to the bottom side of the holes where the pins that hold the carpet go, the foam was so thick that the carpet pulled off of the pins. Cut some of the foam away, or just take it up to where the wall changes direction near the top.

I also did the 'A' pillars, when I did the H/L.

Some tips.
Use a roller on the deadener. Your fingers are not good enough to get it to completely adhere. Or to get it into all the weird shapes of the metal.

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If you get a spot that's going to wrinkle towards the outsides, push it down in the center moving to the outer edge. You'll end up with 2 wrinkles. Do the same for those. This help eliminate any really big wrinkles that may cause fitment issues.

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For big wrinkles, like in the footwells where there can be severe direction changes, cut straight into the middle of the wrinkle, and overlap the cuts.

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I've been trying to find 1/8" closed cell foam. I bought about $500.00 worth about 2 years ago off of ebay, but that seller is no longer a member. I'm gonna need some more, myself, soon.
I like the 1/8" better than the 1/4". As that stuff gets thicker it doesn't like to conform to tighter shapes. Two layers of 1/8" fits a lot better than one 1/4" layer.
 
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