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I have slowly been adding to my collection of .20 and smaller. It comes in my wire pigtails that I use in the dealership. I end up delinking the connector and just replace the bad pins and save the rest for future use
 

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I have slowly been adding to my collection of .20 and smaller. It comes in my wire pigtails that I use in the dealership. I end up delinking the connector and just replace the bad pins and save the rest for future use
I have no idea what you just said but it sounds good. Care to enlighten an old timer?
 

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I believe that if this gets stickied, it needs to be under "Audio & Electronics".

I throw away those old plastic covered crimp terminals when I find them now. I only buy the heat shrink connectors. If your crimp survives a tug test, they're a decent permanent fix. As a dealer tech we were issued heat-shrink butt connectors in our OEM produced recall kits.
22-18 gauge heat shrink butt connectors:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L5JW5G9/

The "most proper" fix is to replace a run of wire from connector to connector with a new terminal end crimped on with the correct crimper. When I was an Air Force AGE technician, some of our equipment had to be maintained to nuclear surety standards. One of those standards is that there can only be one wiring repair in a wire. To this day I try to stick with that when I can. Once I'm confronted with the need for a second splice I start looking at how difficult it would be to run another complete wire.

Invest in proper crimpers for the terminal you're assembling. I recently had to purchase a pair of Packard 56 crimpers for use on older vehicles. Pretty much all that wiring on older vehicles (squarebody and older) was done with Packard 56 terminals. The terminals look like regular spade terminals, but they're slightly bigger and can handle more current. Modern crimpers with the "A-B-C-D-E" sizing on them aren't big enough for Packard 56 terminals.
Packard 56 crimper:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O7S3148/
Packard 56 terminals:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B460HHK/

If you're building a harness from scratch and can use whatever you want, I really like the cheapskate Amazon terminal kits. They're proof that Deutsch and Metri-Pack connectors are way overpriced for being bits of plastic and tin. The downside is that they're all low-current. You can't run your alternator charging wire or starter solenoid wire through them.
www.amazon.com/Waterproof-Automotive-Electrical-Connector-Connectors/dp/B09GN8TQYQ/

If you're doing electrical work, at some point you're going to need to build the heavier stuff, like battery terminals with terminal lugs. Step up and buy the right lugs and crimper. Once they're crimped, heat shrink them!
Hydraulic terminal lug crimper:
1 AWG 3/8" terminal lugs:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09QKTBHX9/
Big heat shrink:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FPKVMTW/
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FPDBGYH/

Military-style battery terminals don't look sexy, but they're absolutely easy and reliable to work with, once you've put terminal lugs on your cables.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B6H1LC4V/

Finally, secure your wiring so that it doesn't rub and chafe. Sheathe your wiring. I hate the old corrugated stuff. The newer split sleeving is good. If you want rugged, use Adel clamps for securing your wiring. If you're going to be in there a lot (i.e. racecar), use rivetable ziptie holders.
Sheathing:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FXF12HC/
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FW3MKGH/
Adel clamps:
Rivetable ziptie holders:
www.amazon.com/GTSE-Black-Screw-Mount-Cable/dp/B07ZKNQ949/
 

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I believe that if this gets stickied, it needs to be under "Audio & Electronics".

I throw away those old plastic covered crimp terminals when I find them now. I only buy the heat shrink connectors. If your crimp survives a tug test, they're a decent permanent fix. As a dealer tech we were issued heat-shrink butt connectors in our OEM produced recall kits.
22-18 gauge heat shrink butt connectors:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L5JW5G9/

The "most proper" fix is to replace a run of wire from connector to connector with a new terminal end crimped on with the correct crimper. When I was an Air Force AGE technician, some of our equipment had to be maintained to nuclear surety standards. One of those standards is that there can only be one wiring repair in a wire. To this day I try to stick with that when I can. Once I'm confronted with the need for a second splice I start looking at how difficult it would be to run another complete wire.

Invest in proper crimpers for the terminal you're assembling. I recently had to purchase a pair of Packard 56 crimpers for use on older vehicles. Pretty much all that wiring on older vehicles (squarebody and older) was done with Packard 56 terminals. The terminals look like regular spade terminals, but they're slightly bigger and can handle more current. Modern crimpers with the "A-B-C-D-E" sizing on them aren't big enough for Packard 56 terminals.
Packard 56 crimper:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O7S3148/
Packard 56 terminals:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B460HHK/

If you're building a harness from scratch and can use whatever you want, I really like the cheapskate Amazon terminal kits. They're proof that Deutsch and Metri-Pack connectors are way overpriced for being bits of plastic and tin. The downside is that they're all low-current. You can't run your alternator charging wire or starter solenoid wire through them.
www.amazon.com/Waterproof-Automotive-Electrical-Connector-Connectors/dp/B09GN8TQYQ/

If you're doing electrical work, at some point you're going to need to build the heavier stuff, like battery terminals with terminal lugs. Step up and buy the right lugs and crimper. Once they're crimped, heat shrink them!
Hydraulic terminal lug crimper:
1 AWG 3/8" terminal lugs:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09QKTBHX9/
Big heat shrink:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FPKVMTW/
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FPDBGYH/

Military-style battery terminals don't look sexy, but they're absolutely easy and reliable to work with, once you've put terminal lugs on your cables.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B6H1LC4V/

Finally, secure your wiring so that it doesn't rub and chafe. Sheathe your wiring. I hate the old corrugated stuff. The newer split sleeving is good. If you want rugged, use Adel clamps for securing your wiring. If you're going to be in there a lot (i.e. racecar), use rivetable ziptie holders.
Sheathing:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FXF12HC/
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FW3MKGH/
Adel clamps:
Rivetable ziptie holders:
www.amazon.com/GTSE-Black-Screw-Mount-Cable/dp/B07ZKNQ949/
Thanks for those links Erik. I like those hydraulic crimpers and can see other uses for those too like making up the brake hoses I use on these bikes I build.
 

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As much as I hate contributing to Amazon's monopoly, being able to check my past orders is incredibly handy for making parts lists like this. They're also fast and efficient at delivering obscure mechanical bits and tools directly to my door in a timely manner.
OK man,
Please don't pollute this thread with personal chit-chat!
 

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I have no idea what you just said but it sounds good. Care to enlighten an old timer?
Often times we have issues with connectors. The repair procedure will have the technician replace the wire pigtail. Sometimes it’s only one wire that’s bad so instead of cutting all the wires to the connector I de-pin the connector and only replace what is bad. We get these kits for the pigtail to make the repair I collect the unused terminals and shrink tube for other uses
 

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That's the way to do it,better than making a splice any day. I'm surprised the factory is furnishing a whole pigtail that has to be spliced in rather than just the terminals to repair the connector. They send you to school to learn the correct way to make that repair but only send you the parts to half ass it it up.
Go figure!
 
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