98 5.7 vortec 1 7/8 crimped - hurting power?

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Headers dont seem to help these trucks at all. I have a cai and mpfi and thats it motor wise. I went from a cracked manifold to 1.5" shorties iirc and i noticed zero difference in performance. Although it did help the sound of the truck alot and thats how i justified the cost.
 

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They did a later video regarding just that.

Do you have any before and after head pipe change data?

Data as in a dyno chart? No.

Headers dont seem to help these trucks at all. I have a cai and mpfi and thats it motor wise. I went from a cracked manifold to 1.5" shorties iirc and i noticed zero difference in performance. Although it did help the sound of the truck alot and thats how i justified the cost.

Wow. Here's the interesting part about your post. A "cai" does nothing to improve performance on an L31. Neither does an electronic injector spider.
 

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When I put headers and a CAI on my old truck, I think it mainly just increased power on the Butt dyno. I did a throttle body spacer and noticed more from that then the other two combined.
 

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Data as in a dyno chart? No.



Wow. Here's the interesting part about your post. A "cai" does nothing to improve performance on an L31. Neither does an electronic injector spider.
Wow. Now let me tell you the obvious problems about your post. Not once did i say they helped power wise because hoenstly they dont help enough to notice. The spider did because mine was pretty bad but it just brought it back to where it shoulda been in the first place. I was just stating that other than those 2 things my engine is stocker then stock. And being that those are aftermarket mods they, by definition, are not stock. I know they arent squat for helping powerwise. My truck is closly related to the OP's truck being both l31 ecsb half tons so i figured i would share my experience with him since he was asking about headers. I shared my honest experience before he spent his hard earned money on things that dont have a noticable effect on a stock motor. Now if you do some other power mods at the same time you may notice a little on the butt dyno. Now, Mr.Knowitall, if they can get back to the subject of the thread instead of you telling everyone why theyre wrong thatd be great.

A stock l31 doesnt flow enough air for the crimp/ bend to make a difference.
 
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I could be wrong but doesnt a 3/4 ton y pipe bolt right up? I know it bigger piping if you really wanted to try to get a less restrictive exhaust.
 

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Wow. Now let me tell you the obvious problems about your post. Not once did i say they helped power wise because hoenstly they dont help enough to notice. The spider did because mine was pretty bad but it just brought it back to where it shoulda been in the first place. I was just stating that other than those 2 things my engine is stocker then stock. And being that those are aftermarket mods they, by definition, are not stock. I know they arent squat for helping powerwise. My truck is closly related to the OP's truck being both l31 ecsb half tons so i figured i would share my experience with him since he was asking about headers. I shared my honest experience before he spent his hard earned money on things that dont have a noticable effect on a stock motor. Now if you do some other power mods at the same time you may notice a little on the butt dyno. Now, Mr.Knowitall, if they can get back to the subject of the thread instead of you telling everyone why theyre wrong thatd be great.

A stock l31 doesnt flow enough air for the crimp/ bend to make a difference.

I'm almost astounded at the content being posted in this thread; the above included. Posters have purported as fact that headers do increase performance and do not increase performance.


I'll leave you with something to ponder which you apparently already know. GM powertrain designed two exhaust systems for the L31. If the 1/2 ton setup is more than adequate to support the exhaust flow requirements of the L31, then why?
 

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I'm almost astounded at the content being posted in this thread; the above included. Posters have purported as fact that headers do increase performance and do not increase performance.


I'll leave you with something to ponder which you apparently already know. GM powertrain designed two exhaust systems for the L31. If the 1/2 ton setup is more than adequate to support the exhaust flow requirements of the L31, then why?
There is nothing you can show or tell me to make me think that any of these 99% stock l31 have any noticable power increases from headers.

Both 1/2 and 3/4 tons with the 5.7 have the same power ratings, so just because the half ton got smaller piping doesnt make it inadequate.
 

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There is nothing you can show or tell me to make me think that any of these 99% stock l31 have any noticable power increases from headers.

Both 1/2 and 3/4 tons with the 5.7 have the same power ratings, so just because the half ton got smaller piping doesnt make it inadequate.

You obviously didn't ponder long enough. Maybe if I draw you a picture.

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The engine has the same rating because it is the same engine. You can lead a horse to water...
 

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You obviously didn't ponder long enough. Maybe if I draw you a picture.

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The engine has the same rating because it is the same engine. You can lead a horse to water...
Weve been over this like 3 times already. THEY ARE DIFFERENT SIZE. We both know that. Im saying the smaller one is still more than adequete for a stock l31. i understand why you would need larger piping, you have a ramjet cam, head work, and 1.6 roller rockers, i have read the thread, but yours is gonna be moving alot more air then stock. I, on the other hand, have absolutly no use for larger piping. It wouldnt gain me a single hp because i have a 99% stock engine.
 

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For a stock 350, I bet there would be a less than a 3hp gain from swapping the skinnier Y pipe and exhaust. Same with shorty headers. However, if say it was a modified engine and long tube headers were installed, dented or not, it would definitely make a difference, so to put this in better terms, headers CAN make a difference, just depends on what they're going on. Stock, not so much, modified, absolutely.
 
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