Thankx Guys, I replaced 4 lifters and wouldn't you know 3 days later a lifter on the drivers side failed! I'm going to just replace them all, some of the guys at the shop said to just replace the broken ones then leave it alone, I've done about 5 oil flushes on this thing and I'm still getting lil carbon type dirt in the filter so I wouldn't say lifters are failing, their just getting stopped up. Hell of a Bee's nest I've got into. I think I'm going to just pull the engine and break it down and try doing all of them, if it don't work I can get a 4 bolt re-man from work for about 1100.00 after a core and just re-use my tin. Thx Again for all the help.