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99'Subourbon

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Hey everyone,

Just wanted to get an opinion on people who have HIRs installed in their 400s, what headlight housing your running, and if you have any pics. Trying to decide between HIRs and HIDs.

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Might be worth checking out the information on the Candlepower forums on HIR, there is a very slight modification to the bulb bases required, but the filament location is exactly the same as the 9005/9006 that come in the stock headlights, as well as the diameter of the base is the same.
 

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A very important difference between current HIR's and the halogens in our trucks is the 9006 halogen low beam has a black coating over the tip of the capsule; the HIR's do not - just like aftermarket HID's. What exact effect this has on the light output is beyond me as I won't pretend to be an expert, but it SEEMS it would be wise to only use them in a housing that has a "glare cap" as part of the design, like TYC Elegante housings have.

I've been meaning to order up some HIR's just to try them out myself. I know there's at least one member here that does have them but I haven't seen pics posted up. The new high power LED direct "bulb" replacements for 9006/9005 look interesting too, but the pattern of the output remains a question as to whether they work well in halogen type reflector housings.

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I run HIR bulbs for low beams in a set of DEPO clear headlight housings. The DEPO's do not have glare shields but I've never been flashed at by oncoming traffic.
The HIR bulbs have the same light pattern as the 9006 bulbs but with nearly double the brightness.
They're one of the best upgrades I've done to my truck.
Sorry, I have no pics.
 

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I'm leaning towards the HIR's, but 'Wildbill' is gonna be doing some research on the Cree LED 9005/9006's.
He's an LED dealer. (Canada)
Not pulling the trigger on either until I see those results.
 

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Thanks for the info guys - guess I'll wait to see how those LEDs work as well in our trucks.
 

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I'm leaning towards the HIR's, but 'Wildbill' is gonna be doing some research on the Cree LED 9005/9006's.
He's an LED dealer. (Canada)
Not pulling the trigger on either until I see those results.

*darkrider (chris or c2)
 

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how about these? http://automationled.3dcartstores.com/22W-LED-HEADLIGHT-KIT_p_138.html

i was thinking about getting them, but they cost over twice as much as HIRs. More lumens than stock, less than HIRs

How about those... absolute garbage. ANY 'drop in' led product is going to be a step back from stock. In a reflector housing, there is only one focal point, and that is optimized for a filament light source. Moving even the stock 9005 / 9006 in or out of the housing while lit will show you this.

Running an HID kit will give you more light, but not optimized, as the radiation pattern will not be smooth, more like the spokes of a wheel. As well, there will be glare for oncoming traffic, and this is a dangerous practice. The light projecting from the electrodes inside the HID bulb comes from a curved arc, and is not at the focal point of the reflector.

As well there is no way in H-e-double-l that heatsink is capable enough for 22w of thermal dissipation. It's like most of the garbage coming from China, if you call them on it, they will say, it 'produces the same light as a 22W filament bulb'. :hmm:

The tiny heatsink in the picture would most likely cause thermal runaway on a 3w LED star driven at 1 amp or so after 10 minutes or so from experience.

Look carefully at the ad copy:

LUMENS: 1200 LM/LED
VOLTAGE: DC12C~14V
INPUT: 1180+-30mA
POWER: 22W/SET
WARRANTY: 1 YEAR

22w per set... 11 watts each, and how much is being dissipated in a resistor, since I assure you there is not going to be a buck / boost driver. I also don't buy the 1200 lumens...

This is a 'REAL' LED star that could be made to work, however you would need proper optics in front of the LED, that do not exist in a 'drop' on package. http://www.ledsupply.com/leds/cree-xpg2-indus-star-3-up-cool-white-high-power-led

The heatsink required to make this live would be fairly large, especially in climates with high outside ambient temperatures. You would also need to use arctic silver thermal epoxy or the arctic silver thermal paste with 4-40 screws to mount the star to the heatsink.

Then, you would have to use the correct silicone to hold your optics and the optic holder to the star, and isolate the heat from the sink from where it mounts to the headlight housing with something like a bakelite sheet in front of the sink. Mounting the driver shouldn't be a challenge though.

You would also have to bake apart your headlight housing, unless you dremel the back out some for the optic and holder to pass through from the back side.

Of course, you would only be able to use this for off-road, shows or competition use... since it would not meet any standard for use upon a public highway.
 
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