Alternator help 470 ohm

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Guys I need a little help with my 1989 LS swap...I got my truck in pieces, hacked in boxes etc . Harness cut , old engine out etc ....So I am just staring at a bunch of loose connectors on the harness I have no idea what they went to or where they go . The connector here in question has 4 pins , 1 single brown wire coming out of it , S F L P marked above the 4 pins. I am assuming this is the original alternator connector ? IF it is - is this where I would connect a 470 ohm resistor in series to the "L" connection on the new LS alternator to make it charge ? Thanks in advance .
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L is lamp aka the battery light in the dash. the 470 ohm resistor mimics the battery light bulb. either a bulb or the resistor is needed to let the alt charge properly
 

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L is lamp aka the battery light in the dash. the 470 ohm resistor mimics the battery light bulb. either a bulb or the resistor is needed to let the alt charge properly
Thanks Kran ...So on the L terminal on the new alternator I will come off its connector into a 470 ohm resistor to the brown wire , then it will go down this brown wire into the dashes alt light on the dash and all should be well - charging etc with the new alt ?
 

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Thanks Kran ...So on the L terminal on the new alternator I will come off its connector into a 470 ohm resistor to the brown wire , then it will go down this brown wire into the dashes alt light on the dash and all should be well - charging etc with the new alt ?
You use a light in the dash, or the resistor. One or the other. Not both.

https://speedmaxinnovation.com/blogs/news/almost-all-the-gm-alternator-information-you-could-need

So the L terminal is all that is needed to excite, or "turn on" the alternator. A small amount of amperage and voltage is applied here to excite, or magnetize the rotor. This allows the alternator to produce voltage when spinning. A full battery voltage/amperage here will destroy the unit. So one factory method was to pass an ignition circuit thru a light bulb, in series, to this terminal. So the voltage had the resistance of the bulb to lower it once the power was applied to the rotor. If the alternator failed to make voltage, this circuit was then LOWER voltage than the ignition circuit passing through the light bulb, so it caused the light to illuminate. This only works with incandescent bulbs. An LED does NOT have enough resistance to achieve the need goal.

But now days, we don't like to run a big dummy light in the dash, so we instead replace the light bulb with a resistor. The resistor is doing the EXACT same thing as the bulb, but we just don't have a visual aid if it fails. NOW, this is not a 5v circuit like everyone says. If you put a multi-meter on the circuit, with bulb or resistor in line, you will NOT see a drop in voltage. You will only see this if the connector is also hooked to the alternator. A resistor is a CURRENT LIMITING DEVICE, not a voltage limiting device. A single resistor will never have a large voltage drop.

So now we know to put a resistor inline to an ignition on power source. The most common resistor used for this is 470 ohm. Not 470 kohm, as this is a hugely different value. You can get away with a bit more resistance, such as 500-600ohm and be safe.
 

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Hmmm seems fault prone ,,,but I guess they have been doing it this way for decades like this . But if the bulb fails in the dash wouldnt your alternator stop charging ? In a few weeks when I try to start it for the first time I will try it this way (no resistor) brown wire only connected to "L" on the alternator and see what happens . Tx for the help !
 

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Hmmm seems fault prone ,,,but I guess they have been doing it this way for decades like this . But if the bulb fails in the dash wouldnt your alternator stop charging ?
Yes, the alternator stops charging. :mad:!

This has been a silly design and issue with GM vehicles that run the exciter wire through a light bulb going back to at least the early 80s. I have the same issue and use a resistor bypass on my late 80s G-Body.
 
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Terminal "L" to brown dash alt wire.
 

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