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Please, don't hold back.... lolololololol
He never does lol
The global economy that was sold to us as being this awesome future where robots would do all the work and we all hang out down at the beach and watch the sun go down while we ate grapes and played the ******* lute while pondering the universe.
Such utter ********.
The start of union busting begins in the 80s
And letting evangelists corrode that seperation between church and state.
Im will have to skim over a lot of history because of txt limitations but,
By the mid 90s, the story was that the japanese were outperforming us

This led to all kinds of crazy production management theories.
It was nuts.
Anyone who worked in fabrication or production back then might remember some new rule about doing excersizes in the morning.
This was a stuped little clown show designed to make you follow a rule and if you didnt,
That is when "HR" became a thing.
Human Resources fer **** sake.
HR is a system that sets and regulates little ******** traps so an employee is already "pre-loaded" for termination.
A little ****** ********* industry that never existed before union busting.
Ive been married to a couple of them.
Souless cringeworthy
And it was always "Thats my Job"
Get a different job and maybe a ******* heart.
The HR ******* were always the first wave of inpending fuckery.
They set up a series of rules and forms and other nonsense that chokes that business through that little narrow self serving funnel of information that they actually tell the owner about all while pumping the stock price by cutting expense and payroll.
The oldest ****** up business story ever told.

The actual owners are absentee.
So you end up with the least qualified shitbags stiffeling entire industries.
Job one for those little suckups is to make sure they have a way to fire you.
And that is why you need a union.
HR is not your freind.
They are paid to document every possible little mis-step that falls outside of whatever legalise document they pooped out at thier last corporate retreat while they decided to by themselves new office chairs.
Because they really deserve it.
Life is so hard.
They had to go to work today and short five thousand people on their pay check.
Waah, ****** Waah.
I was married to a couple of these people.
They took great joy in ******* somebody over.
It is still so beyond me and so bizzare that I really do not understand any of it.
The only way either of them could feel happy was by making someone else feel worse.
They consider denying your payroll claim or any injury claim as a great sucess.
And they both to this day do not understand why I have no respect at all for either of them.
They both spent at least a year writing up ******** safety and policy violations which were all fycking fabricated nonsense in order to find a way to fire these guys AFTER the injury.
On different jobs.
They both did the same ******* thing.
And that was pretty much it.
My ex had a pizza party after ******* over this guy and his wife and his kids.
To this day she does not understand why when she cslls up every couple of years I tell her to **** off.
In her mind, I betrayed her because I was not going to be a part of or participate in her back stabbing innocent people.
Which of course meant that I was hiding things from her and having an affair with him and his sister and his Mom.
And **** me I ordered a friggen pizza in the middle of this and I was doing pizza boy too.
A hell of a lot more credit than I deserve.
Even back then I didnt have that much in the tank.
I just wanted to sleep.
So I got back in the truck and went back to work at about 3 am and slept in my office again .
By the time I called her back at about 10 the next morning she had wrecked this guys life in order to teach me a lesson.
Thats what she said
"I did it to teach you a lesson"

It took me a bit to realize what she was taliking about and what she had done.
I didnt understand that there are monsters amongst us.
Yep, she sure as hell tought me a lesson.
Just not the lesson she had in mind.
This is the same woman who rescues cats and does home medical experiments on them and has them whacked when they get sick.
She also sits in front of a mirror and punches herself in the face before a funeral so her eyes will swell up.
Just to make it look like she has been crying.
And the most high level HR Corporate ladder climbing ankle biteing neck cutting pro out there.

And not unsual at all.
That is who you are up against.
Join the union. get a union job.
Work quetly to unionize your shop.
Dont let them know what you are up to untill you have strength in the shop.
Do not sign any damn thing that HR puts in front of you wothout a peer witness.
If they try to term you for not signing
sue them.
Always remember no matter what ******** and pressure they try to apply to you you can not sign away your constitutional rights.
You can not sign away your rights.
You dont have that authority.
Indentured Servitude is illegal.
All of the ******** they try to make you sign is almost always legally uninforceable.
It is all design to clog the courts and make you pay for an attorney in order to claim your rights.
Which they know you cant possibly afford.
In certain types of cases you as a private citizen can no longer "approach the bench" without a lawyer.
Yep.
Us peeons arent even allowed to speak to the exalted ones without a paid blood sucker bowing before them.
The only way out of all of this fuckery is to vote and unionize.
And stop buying cheap **** at walmart.
Every time you buy crap at walmart you might as well buy a crappy steak knife on the way out and stab yourself in the leg.
Keep doing that untill that cheap ass chinese tin foil knife snaps off in your leg.
Spend a few more bucks and get a knife made in Detroit.
It will do the job just fine and you can pass it down too!
You pretty much nailed my experience at a Toyota dealership. Shop meeting about exercises prior to 8 am for those that wanted to participate, and shop lights on @8am off @5pm without exception. Then write people up when work didn't get out the door for lack of the parts dept. not wanting to stock stuff or people being able to stay a little late. Insurance companies want the light collision jobs done in x number of days.

I said something about not living in Japan at that meeting and found myself on every single call out for random drug testing for the next few months. Not a worry for me, but I eventually had an attorney write her a personal letter that if she continued to use her on the job authority to harass me personally that I was going to use my rights as an individual to sue her personally. When she walked in the bodyshop with the death stare I knew she got it. The look on the managers face when I reached up and rubbed my eyebrow with my middle finger=priceless.

Hr has one objective and it's not the employee.
 

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The tarrifs and incentives were largely for show, the money had already been made. Neither political party, nor any elected officials in this country are interested in the fate of the working class, they just want us to believe they are.
Bingo! You get it.

Inexpensive Chinese stuff helps people believe they are still part of the middle class……….
 

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Wow! I didn't expect the thread to go off like this:D It just shows the pent up anger & resentment of a failed system. I believe the UK may fare even worse in a potential non Chinese world of commerce in that similar to the US, we have given scant regard to manufacturing sustainability and source almost everything from abroad. We claim to have expertise to innovate and be leaders but it's all a load of waffle to the average Joe. It's all about being a finance/service based economy based in London with a super clear north/south divide which has yet to be made fairer. Anyhow, let me go fit those Chinese parts & cuss about the quality!
 

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Well, that, and it's because that's all that we can fvcking afford.
It wasn't always like that. When we had the choice to buy American or not many chose the cheaper product. Many want it all, they want it now, they want it cheap as they can get it, and they'll go into debt to get it.

There used to be a popular saying, "Buy American, the job you save might be your own" We have very limited choices anymore.

It's been said already that we did this to ourselves..... all while banging on the boss's door demanding more money from companies we don't spend money with.
 
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It wasn't always like that. When we had the choice to buy American or not many chose the cheaper product. Many want it all, they want it now, they want it cheap as they can get it, and they'll go into debt to get it.

There used to be a popular saying, "Buy American, the job you save might be your own" We have very limited choices anymore.

It's been said already that we did this to ourselves..... all while banging on the boss's door demanding more money from companies we don't spend money with.
I understand your statement, however, I think my point is being missed.

Costs of everything have skyrocketed and wages have stayed stagnant.

I'd go further with this, but I'm typing this from a barely useable smart phone. It would take too long to type.
 

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Always remember that the world is run by C students. CEOs aren't immune to this. They tend to be social climbers, not "the best and brightest".

I've been in jobs where HR was helpful. If it's being used coercively, that's lazy management passing the buck. If an HR person goes along with it, it's because they lack the competence to do their job, or the confidence to stand up against it.

If you achieve a position of leadership, remember that your job is not to boss people around, it's your job to give them the tools and training to do their jobs, remove obstacles that keep work from getting done, and if the job still isn't getting done, it's your job to figure out why not. If, after all that, the employee isn't working, counsel them, encourage them, and if necessary, encourage them out the door. If an employee is productive, leave them alone. If management wants "more productivity" and your people are already working hard and producing, turning the screws on your own people will only dork it all up. You'll need to innovate or reorganize things to increase productivity.

A mentally lazy boss who just makes demands of everyone is destructive. A leader is someone who convinces others they should work hard for a common goal.
 
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