What is all needed to run a simple sas with 40s on a k1500?

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The FIRST thing you need to think about is what you're going to do for a rear axle, 'cause the 8.5" ring gear, junk axle your truck was probably built with has nowhere near the strength needed, nor the gearing needed, nor the brakes required.

I'd expect a half-ton with a '700 to have the base (weak) 8.5" rear axle, 3.42, maybe 3.73 gears. I'd expect 254mm (10") leading/trailing shoe brakes, which aren't adequate even with small OEM-sized tires.

Why do you need a solid front axle if you're not doing extreme off-road activities? Seems like a total waste of time, money, effort, and enthusiasm.

By the time you buy parts and add your labor to convert the rear axle, and fabricate the front axle, you could sell your truck, and just buy a 3/4-ton 8-lug squarebody with a solid front axle and save two weeks of headaches and parts chasing.
I am more wanting to do the sas due to the 40 inch tires. I would much rather do a body lift and run 37s with a new 6 inch lift but everyone has that it seems. The solid axles are a lot stronger too with the 15.5 inch tires. Ifs seeks to just not handle anything super well after 35s. Thats just my thinking I guess.
 
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The FIRST thing you need to think about is what you're going to do for a rear axle, 'cause the 8.5" ring gear, junk axle your truck was probably built with has nowhere near the strength needed, nor the gearing needed, nor the brakes required.

I'd expect a half-ton with a '700 to have the base (weak) 8.5" rear axle, 3.42, maybe 3.73 gears. I'd expect 254mm (10") leading/trailing shoe brakes, which aren't adequate even with small OEM-sized tires.

Why do you need a solid front axle if you're not doing extreme off-road activities? Seems like a total waste of time, money, effort, and enthusiasm.

By the time you buy parts and add your labor to convert the rear axle, and fabricate the front axle, you could sell your truck, and just buy a 3/4-ton 8-lug squarebody with a solid front axle and save two weeks of headaches and parts chasing.
Also squarebody chevy are extremely high priced and I've already found this truck and have done quite a bit too it for the in my eyes for the low amount I paid for it. I've only got about 5400 into it so far. Nice interior, frame, and body. Motor is definitely a little lacking to my last truck but it still gets me around.
 
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Geez you guys are so technical. There are only 3 things required here:

#1: Money

#2: Money

#3: Money

Seriously though, you've already gotten some good advice. Just don't expect it to be cheap unless you want it to suck balls.
Yes. Money is always the problem with this stuff
 

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Geez you guys are so technical. There are only 3 things required here:

#1: Money

#2: Money

#3: Money

Seriously though, you've already gotten some good advice. Just don't expect it to be cheap unless you want it to suck balls.
I think $4k-$5k is probably a good estimate the times I kinda price checked.

Then there's all the time to hunt down a whatever year Dana 60, ordering parts, sending parts that were ordered or received wrong.

Then there's the actual work. About 2-3 weeks working nights and weekends, depending on how you look at it.

I'm sorry to say, but in my case I'd be looking for an F-350 4x4 from the late 90s/early 00 if I wanted to SAS my Chebby K3500.

But would still be a good project for the wow factor.
 
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Will power and commitment, knowledge of how things work together, and the idea that it's custom so it needs fine tuning for couple years. Mechanical experience.

I used sky offroad kit. Leaf spring brackets $550 (bolt on)
Sky offroad steering kit $400
Procomp 2.5" leafs for blazer $300
(Brackets add 3" lift so total lift 5.5")
88 suburban front driveshaft $100 ebay
Transfercase front flange $50 ebay
Had to mill splines down to fit case
79 ford f250 hp d44 8 bolt local guy $200
88 blazer shocks rough country $120 front
Sky offroad leaf spring u bolt kit $90
Sky offroad weld on shock mounts $50

Also upgraded to 4.10 gear 14 bolt for rear 8 bolt $350
So had to regear ford axle to 4.10. Did this myself. $250ish
$200 new take off 8 bolt rims

Upgraded brake master cylinder to NBS to handle much larger brakes. $100
Also have to configure exhaust differently.
About sums it up.

My opinion... buy 3" body lift crank torsion to level and buy 35" tires. Looks like monster truck, still handles well for street use and more then capable. Way cheaper way less engineering, way less headache.
Alright. Thanks for the advise. I have been thinking about the body lift and bigger lift which will probably end up happening with the Money I have and the fact I just missed out on some dana 60s off a 95 ford for 800 dollers. (Really should have just picked them up just to have them).
 
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I think $4k-$5k is probably a good estimate the times I kinda price checked.

Then there's all the time to hunt down a whatever year Dana 60, ordering parts, sending parts that were ordered or received wrong.

Then there's the actual work. About 2-3 weeks working nights and weekends, depending on how you look at it.

I'm sorry to say, but in my case I'd be looking for an F-350 4x4 from the late 90s/early 00 if I wanted to SAS my Chebby K3500.

But would still be a good project for the wow factor.
Yep. I think I'm going for the wow factor in the end. Ohio sucks on lift laws but I still plan on daily driving it when it gets done. (Of if it gets done with how much I've got to worry about everyone keeps saying).
 

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Yep. I think I'm going for the wow factor in the end. Ohio sucks on lift laws but I still plan on daily driving it when it gets done. (Of if it gets done with how much I've got to worry about everyone keeps saying).
To add what was already mentioned: throw a 14 bolt in the rear end and probably a 4L80e swap...cause you are going to need them!

We don't have lift laws here, I don't think? What do they regulate? Tire size? How high you lift your truck? Are you still going to be legal?

Good luck.
 
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Alight. I have been looking around talking to peaple that just drive this sort of set up around. I can stay away from the trails I think. I read on another website that 3.55s are "good" for gas milage and are just slow off the line. I found another pair of dana 60s out of another mid 90s ford. Another 95 f350. If I got them and did the bolt on kit I was led too that gets it done pretty well and easy, would I be able to run 37s for now just to daily it and maybe do a bit of riding through some muddy fields or something. The axles I'm looking at have 3.54 gears he says the rear is a 10.25. Put the pst description on here as pictured
I am not in a great hurry to do this yet. I'd just like to know exactly what I should be searching for and I guess a price. My truck is a white 1990 k1500 short bed single cab with a 5.7 and a 700r4 transmission. I'd like to have it sit on 40 by probably 15.5 inch tires and a 14 inch wide wheel and still be able to daily drive it (not worrying about gas yet). I'd also like to take it offraod some to (nothing extreme I wouldn't say). Just some mudding or some medium leval trails as I have some woods to play with it in (like cricks and hills). Also I'd like to keep fearly cheap as it gets if possible. Thanks for the help. And I've attached a picture of what I'd sort of like it to sit like.
 

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I would say a 14 bolt is in order for 35's and up , I would go deep on the gearing, I'm running 3.42's with 33" tires and it's a dog. I would like 4.10 with my tires , overdrive trans will let you run some pretty steep gears .
 
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I would say a 14 bolt is in order for 35's and up , I would go deep on the gearing, I'm running 3.42's with 33" tires and it's a dog. I would like 4.10 with my tires , overdrive trans will let you run some pretty steep gears .
I do have overdrive. My truck is already pretty slow with what I assume is all factory just with a 4 inch lift kit and 33s. I am fine with it being slow. Just don't want it to become a really bad problem. Like taking time to cross a road or something from a stop. After hearing about the cost of gearing, I don't think I'll be doing it for a little while.
 
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