Brake Problems...Please Help!

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I recently got my brakes "flushed" (I think they just bled them since I can see stuff floating in the fluid). They felt ok at first, but now I'm having a few problems.

91 c2500 8600 gvwr

1) when I pressed the brakes the brake light comes on, but not as bright as it does when I use the parking brake. It does not flash, and turns off when I let off the brakes.
2) I have almost no brakes, and then suddenly very strong brakes. Its very tricky to be smooth.
3) There was a leak from between the master the fluid res when I got it back, and the seals are defintely swollen and misshapen. I wiggled the reservoir, sprayed it down with brake fluid, and rinsed with water. The level is good and no longer seems to be leaking.
4) It seems like there was a leak between the master and booster one point due to the finish being removed from booster.
5) I still have a high idle (1-1,100k), and the leak was not found by smoke machine or spraying carb cleaner all over the place. Most sensors (not tps yet) replaced, iac calibrated, and tbi rebuilt.

When I called the shop they told me sometimes when you flush older vehicles the seals inside the master go out can cause these issues. Since the seals on the outside are in poor condition this seems reasonable.


What do you guys think? Should I replace the booster and master? Should I remove the rear abs crap at the same time? I read a thread a thread where everyone talked about how pulling that junk made a bit improvement in brake power and feel.

FYI these pictures are from before it was bled, the fluid looks a lot cleaner and it towards the top now.

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I'm not a fan of ditching the brake system components. I like to make them work right.

I recently got my brakes "flushed" (I think they just bled them since I can see stuff floating in the fluid). They felt ok at first, but now I'm having a few problems.
That's some garbage work they did. I can understand that with older vehicles there might be more contaminants to clean out, but you don't stop flushing until it's clean. I'd say "take it back", but I don't know that I'd trust their work.

There was a leak from between the master the fluid res when I got it back, and the seals are defintely swollen and misshapen. I wiggled the reservoir, sprayed it down with brake fluid, and rinsed with water. The level is good and no longer seems to be leaking.
You at least want to replace the reservoir and seals. RockAuto has it for $19 (make sure it matches your brake system). Then bleed your brakes thoroughly in case you introduced any water.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=3901044&cc=1033007&jsn=487

It seems like there was a leak between the master and booster one point due to the finish being removed from booster.
Was that a previous master cylinder, or this one? If this one's leaking, why are you even considering keeping it?

Should I replace the booster and master?
If the booster works, leave it alone.

As far as the brake light, I don't know enough about the system to know why it's coming on.
 

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My first thought about the high idle and the way your brakes are acting is that you have an internal booster vacuum leak. I'd hate to just throw parts at it but your best bet would be to replace both the booster and the master.

If you decide to do that, why not upgrade to a 1-ton hydro-boost and master...

And yea, dont bring it back to that shop
 

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I still have a high idle (1-1,100k), and the leak was not found by smoke machine or spraying carb cleaner all over the place. Most sensors (not tps yet) replaced, iac calibrated, and tbi rebuilt.
Vise grip that hose off. If your vacuum leak goes away, replace the booster.
 

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With the snappy pedal, I was going to point the finger at the hydroboost as they will tend to do that but I see you have vacuum brakes. This makes me wonder if you're leaking gear oil or brake fluid onto the rear shoes. Only way to see is to pull a drum.
 

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With the snappy pedal, I was going to point the finger at the hydroboost as they will tend to do that but I see you have vacuum brakes. This makes me wonder if you're leaking gear oil or brake fluid onto the rear shoes. Only way to see is to pull a drum.

It looks like they spilled brake fluid all over the place when they bled the brakes. It wouldn't surprise me.
 

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Vise grip that hose off. If your vacuum leak goes away, replace the booster.

I tried it and it didn't change anything. If i pull the vacuum hose/check valve after the truck sitting over night I can hear plenty of vacuum. I did a few different test and it seems the booster is fine.
 

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y "take it back", but I don't know that I'd trust their work.

Yeah not going back there. They had it for two weeks, charged me $300, and now the truck it worse than when I took it. I parked it for a couple weeks after I got it back and it's too late to go in there guns blazing. Lesson learned. I'm going to replace the master and get her bled.
 
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