Two tone paint combos?

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It's a bit of a color shifting paint. It can look anything from black, to green, to grey, to even blue-ish in the right light.
Color shifting usually has high pearl content. Ie expensive. just so you know, the color name means nothing. When you go to have paint priced or mixed you need the paint code. Most new stuff is painted with waterborne base and solvent based paints don't achieve the same "effect". The pearls/color shifting don't stand out as much. I can mix the same formula with the same toners off the same mixing rig in either solvent based or water base and the solvent base never has the same color intensity/clarity.

Also, I routinely mix some of these modern colors that are over $150 a quart and low voc/national rule compliant materials don't distance like older stuff. You might want to price some materials. It hard to paint one for less then $2k just for materials.
 

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Color shifting usually has high pearl content. Ie expensive. just so you know, the color name means nothing. When you go to have paint priced or mixed you need the paint code. Most new stuff is painted with waterborne base and solvent based paints don't achieve the same "effect". The pearls/color shifting don't stand out as much. I can mix the same formula with the same toners off the same mixing rig in either solvent based or water base and the solvent base never has the same color intensity/clarity.

Also, I routinely mix some of these modern colors that are over $150 a quart and low voc/national rule compliant materials don't distance like older stuff. You might want to price some materials. It hard to paint one for less then $2k just for materials.

I've heard this before. So as a question. If I was to repaint my truck to stock paint but all the steps needed for a good quality paint job. Would it still not come out like the original paint when it was brand new??
 

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Color shifting usually has high pearl content. Ie expensive. just so you know, the color name means nothing. When you go to have paint priced or mixed you need the paint code. Most new stuff is painted with waterborne base and solvent based paints don't achieve the same "effect". The pearls/color shifting don't stand out as much. I can mix the same formula with the same toners off the same mixing rig in either solvent based or water base and the solvent base never has the same color intensity/clarity.

Also, I routinely mix some of these modern colors that are over $150 a quart and low voc/national rule compliant materials don't distance like older stuff. You might want to price some materials. It hard to paint one for less then $2k just for materials.

I think this is the code for it?
62/WA805K
 

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I've heard this before. So as a question. If I was to repaint my truck to stock paint but all the steps needed for a good quality paint job. Would it still not come out like the original paint when it was brand new??
Painting can be subjective. A lot depends on the quality of the paint and how thorough the underlying prep work is done. Still on a high end paint job the paint prep is water sanding with blocks etc. Bodywork the same way hand sanding with blocks. The machine sanders only get you so far so it a very tedious labor intensive process.

At the factory, which I have been to a few, the cars are painted with nothing in them and the paint is baked at close to 300 degrees on a repaint we have interiors wiring in them so baking is usually limited to around 140 degrees. It's debated if the baking temp makes a difference in durability with a repaint as to whether it will be as durable as oem. I don't really have an opinion on it as I have painted cars with higher end clears and even some mid grade clears that looked good going on 10 years sitting outside and it's hard to get that out of a factory paint job.

Our trucks, the late 80's early 90's some were painted with lacquer basecoats and enamel clears and some were painted single stage. Gm had some issues as we all know. Urethanes were new to the market and in their infancy as far as development so todays materials would be better in that regard.
 

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Painting can be subjective. A lot depends on the quality of the paint and how thorough the underlying prep work is done. Still on a high end paint job the paint prep is water sanding with blocks etc. Bodywork the same way hand sanding with blocks. The machine sanders only get you so far so it a very tedious labor intensive process.

At the factory, which I have been to a few, the cars are painted with nothing in them and the paint is baked at close to 300 degrees on a repaint we have interiors wiring in them so baking is usually limited to around 140 degrees. It's debated if the baking temp makes a difference in durability with a repaint as to whether it will be as durable as oem. I don't really have an opinion on it as I have painted cars with higher end clears and even some mid grade clears that looked good going on 10 years sitting outside and it's hard to get that out of a factory paint job.

Our trucks, the late 80's early 90's some were painted with lacquer basecoats and enamel clears and some were painted single stage. Gm had some issues as we all know. Urethanes were new to the market and in their infancy as far as development so todays materials would be better in that regard.

Awesome. Some of the points you've said rings a bell. That's my issue. Idk if I wanna strip the interior lol. I know it's better and more smarter, but I've been hearing a lot about paint correction and that's got me interested. I really just want the paint to be saved and the same on all panels except roof and then I want a really good quality clear coat. That's my biggest concern. I dont want it to be thin and wear off lol. I like the gloss wet look. Not to mention the metallic
 

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Awesome. Some of the points you've said rings a bell. That's my issue. Idk if I wanna strip the interior lol. I know it's better and more smarter, but I've been hearing a lot about paint correction and that's got me interested. I really just want the paint to be saved and the same on all panels except roof and then I want a really good quality clear coat. That's my biggest concern. I dont want it to be thin and wear off lol. I like the gloss wet look. Not to mention the metallic

Be careful when you read about paint correction LOL That is not just about buying high dollar products or selling a $400 detail job. Most bodyshops use 3M or Meguire's stuff and you can get Meguires and buffing suppllies at Harbor freight these days. Some of that turtle wax stuff in auto zone is like buffing with a piece of 80 grit.
 

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Be careful when you read about paint correction LOL That is not just about buying high dollar products or selling a $400 detail job. Most bodyshops use 3M or Meguire's stuff and you can get Meguires and buffing suppllies at Harbor freight these days. Some of that turtle wax stuff in auto zone is like buffing with a piece of 80 grit.

Awesome I'll keep that in mind for sure. Just something else to add to my wish list:)
 
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