Serpentine belt trouble

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My serpentine belt keeps coming off on my 454 Dually. The a/c is not working so the compressor is suspect. It started when I got the harmonic balancer was replaced. Everything has been replaced like tensioners, even brackets. What can be wrong?
 

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Thank you! I pointed that out to my mechanic recently so hopefully they figure that out.
Any ideas on converting my older a/c Freon to the newer stuff?
 

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Well, if it started doing this when the harmonic balancer was replaced, why would you think it's the AC?

You can check alignment with a long straightedge. From the crank pulley, check against the various pulleys like alternator, PS, AC, etc.
 

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Jumping belt can only be misalignment or slack.
Can't help you with the freon question - I ditched my AC. There's a section on the forum that deals with AC - ask there.
 

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Well, if it started doing this when the harmonic balancer was replaced, why would you think it's the AC?

You can check alignment with a long straightedge. From the crank pulley, check against the various pulleys like alternator, PS, AC, etc.
The a/c is not working so I thought the compressor could jam and throw the belt.
 

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Most tensioners have markings to indicate their operating range of motion. Find out if your tensioner is within it's expected operating range. Make sure the tensioner pulley--along with all the other pulleys--are in good condition.

With the belt off, spin the A/C pulley. The bearing should feel smooth. Any roughness or play could be your root cause.


You can check alignment with a long straightedge. From the crank pulley, check against the various pulleys like alternator, PS, AC, etc.
Verify alignment of the belt. This is not easy, and it's more complex than most folks think. Your straightedge needs to prove alignment from the crankshaft pulley to the other pulleys, and ALSO FROM THE OTHER PULLEYS BACK TO THE CRANKSHAFT PULLEY. You MUST verify alignment both ways, because a pulley can seem to be aligned when in fact it's out of alignment in two different planes. It's a 3-D world, pulleys can be out of alignment by being angled top/bottom, left/right, or by being straight but too far forward/rearward, or any combination of errors. Verifying TWO pulleys--crank and A/C, for example--requires at least three tests of alignment.
1. Crank to one side of the A/C pulley (upper or left side)
2. Crank to the other side of the A/C pulley (ower or right, so you're checking 180 degrees apart.)
3. A/C pulley to crank. Ideally, you check both sides of the crank pulley, just as above.)

Would be worth looking for cracked brackets, loose bolts, etc. on the various accessories--alternator, A/C compressor, PS, AIR pump, water pump, etc.

Are you sure you have the CORRECT BELT?

Well, if it started doing this when the harmonic balancer was replaced, why would you think it's the AC?
Good question.

If the torsional damper was replaced because the bent crankshaft caused it's failure, you're in deep doo-doo. Let's hope the crank isn't bent. Does the new damper wobble? Does the tensioner arm jiggle?
 
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How was the balancer installed?
It takes a special tool to do it properly
You cant just beat the snot out of it

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So you say you have an R12 A/C system, that means 88-91. '92 was a transition year.

After the belt problem is fixed
After the winter is over
Then you can address the A/C system

First. Install the retrofit fittings and add a pound of R134a with Dye Just enough to potentially get the compressor pumping. Let her run 20 mins or so, to get the dye spread throughout the system. Check for leaks, repair as necessary. If you replace any parts, add 2 oz of new oil, plus the same amount of any you drain out.
Example: if you change the compressor, drain the old oil into a measuring cup. Say you get 1 oz. You'll add 3 oz into the new compressor
 
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