The real differences in 700r4/4l60/4l60e transmissions by year

[Josephbryce0328]

I just recently bought a 4l60e trans case 2 piece from a 97 Chevy and didn't know at the time I bought it the difference from 94-97 and was wandering if I could use the guys and wires from the 94 in the 97 casing my 94 4l60 trans cracked and I picked up the 97 trans case for 100 bucks and need the truck back on the road, if I can't use the guts and wires from the 94 how can I make the 97 trans work with the truck thanks

 

[SAATR]

You should be able to transfer the valve body, wiring harness, VSS, PN switch, and non-PWM pump from the 94 trans to the 97 trans and be OK. My '97 Suburban has the 1 piece bellhousing and case, but I suppose others could have gotten the 2 piece at some point. May want to check the tag on top of the trans or the serial number stamped above the pan rail on the passenger side to verify what the trans was originally installed in, what year, etc.

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[Josephbryce0328]

Thanks for the feed back I've been putting off the swap till I actually got some info on if if be wasting my time or not

 

[John254]

I have been compiling this info for a while, finally got around to posting it. I could not find a thread on here that outlined the actual differences in the automatic transmissions of our trucks. Feel free to comment or ask questions if you need anything. I BELIEVE all this is correct, but feel free to correct me if i have made a mistake or overlooked something. Maybe this will help everyone figure out what will and will not work between years.

1988, 89, and 90- 700r4 trans. Nothing changed

1991, 92- Name changed to 4l60. No changes were made from the 700r4.

1993- first year for the 4l60-E. In its simplest terms, it is an electrically controlled 700r4. No PWM. 11 pin connector

1994- NOTHING changed between 93 and 94. Transmissions are directly interchangeable. No PWM. 11 pin connector

1995- Stand alone year. First year for PWM. Has an extra solinoid to control the PWM. 3-2 shift AND TCC are PWM in this trans. Has a different 3-2 control solonoid, and a extra wire in the harness to facilitate the PWM TCC lockup. Addition of a trans mounted neutral safety switch. If you put a 95 trans in a 94, it will not recognise the PWM circuits and will go in to limp mode. If you put a 94 trans in a 95, the check engine light will stay on, and the TCC and the 3-2 clutch pack will burn up after just a few miles. If you put a 96 trans in a 95, the 3-2 clutch pack will also burn up after a few miles. 95 has a 10-15 ohm TCC solenoid and a 10-15 ohm 3-2 solenoid. 12 pin connector.

1996- 3-2 shift is NON-PWM. It was changed back to a on/off arrangement. The 3-2 solenoid was changed to a 20-31 ohm unit. The 3-2 control valve was changed to "design 2". TCC is still PWM and uses the same 10-15 ohm solenoid as a 95. You can create a 95 trans out of a 96 or vice versa, but you have to change the 3-2 solenoid, the valve body, and the separator plate. If only the 3-2 solenoid is changed (and not the valve body casting), the transmission will 'cut loose' on 3-2 downshifts (shift from 3rd to neutral, then to 2nd as the accelerator is released). 12 pin connector.

1997 (one piece bell housing)- Identical to 1996. Direct swap. 12 pin connector.
1997 (two piece bell housing)- Identical to 1996 EXCEPT the addition of a transmission ground wire in the harness. This was done to address poor transmission grounding issues on the previous models. Can be interchanged with the 1 piece bell housing, but the ground wire should be added to the harness if you are using the 2 piece. 2 piece bell housing models also had hardened sun shells to address the sun shell fracture issue common to the previous model automatic transmissions. Identical in fit, function, and design, the material just changed. 13 pin connector.

1998- Identical to 1997 2 piece bell housing.

1999-up Identical to 1998 and 1997 2 piece bell housing

Can a 97 4l60e 2 piece 4x4 blazer trans fit in my 95 4x4 suburban or can all the guts transfer in my 97 to the 95 1 piece 4l60e

 

[robert614]

how do i add the ground wire to the harness to use a 98 4l60e in my 97 1500 with 1 piece case

 

[Steven1027]

Hopefully I'm not asking a question that had already been brought up, but scanning thru I didn't see it. The 96 4l60e, the tailshaft housing is a 4 bolt patern connecting it to the tranny, and the 98 it is a 6 bolt pattern. Now on the flip side of the housing, does the pattern bolting the tailshaft housing to the tcase, does that pattern change between 96 and 98?

 

[rickyrayjay]

I have been compiling this info for a while, finally got around to posting it. I could not find a thread on here that outlined the actual differences in the automatic transmissions of our trucks. Feel free to comment or ask questions if you need anything. I BELIEVE all this is correct, but feel free to correct me if i have made a mistake or overlooked something. Maybe this will help everyone figure out what will and will not work between years.

1988, 89, and 90- 700r4 trans. Nothing changed

1991, 92- Name changed to 4l60. No changes were made from the 700r4.

1993- first year for the 4l60-E. In its simplest terms, it is an electrically controlled 700r4. No PWM. 11 pin connector

1994- NOTHING changed between 93 and 94. Transmissions are directly interchangeable. No PWM. 11 pin connector

1995- Stand alone year. First year for PWM. Has an extra solinoid to control the PWM. 3-2 shift AND TCC are PWM in this trans. Has a different 3-2 control solonoid, and a extra wire in the harness to facilitate the PWM TCC lockup. Addition of a trans mounted neutral safety switch. If you put a 95 trans in a 94, it will not recognise the PWM circuits and will go in to limp mode. If you put a 94 trans in a 95, the check engine light will stay on, and the TCC and the 3-2 clutch pack will burn up after just a few miles. If you put a 96 trans in a 95, the 3-2 clutch pack will also burn up after a few miles. 95 has a 10-15 ohm TCC solenoid and a 10-15 ohm 3-2 solenoid. 12 pin connector.

1996- 3-2 shift is NON-PWM. It was changed back to a on/off arrangement. The 3-2 solenoid was changed to a 20-31 ohm unit. The 3-2 control valve was changed to "design 2". TCC is still PWM and uses the same 10-15 ohm solenoid as a 95. You can create a 95 trans out of a 96 or vice versa, but you have to change the 3-2 solenoid, the valve body, and the separator plate. If only the 3-2 solenoid is changed (and not the valve body casting), the transmission will 'cut loose' on 3-2 downshifts (shift from 3rd to neutral, then to 2nd as the accelerator is released). 12 pin connector.

1997 (one piece bell housing)- Identical to 1996. Direct swap. 12 pin connector.
1997 (two piece bell housing)- Identical to 1996 EXCEPT the addition of a transmission ground wire in the harness. This was done to address poor transmission grounding issues on the previous models. Can be interchanged with the 1 piece bell housing, but the ground wire should be added to the harness if you are using the 2 piece. 2 piece bell housing models also had hardened sun shells to address the sun shell fracture issue common to the previous model automatic transmissions. Identical in fit, function, and design, the material just changed. 13 pin connector.

1998- Identical to 1997 2 piece bell housing.

1999-up Identical to 1998 and 1997 2 piece bell housing

If I put an old style 99 into a 97 both 4x4, how do I go about adding the ground to the harness? Is there a write up and it pics anyone knows of? Thanks

 

[chriss10]

I have been compiling this info for a while, finally got around to posting it. I could not find a thread on here that outlined the actual differences in the automatic transmissions of our trucks. Feel free to comment or ask questions if you need anything. I BELIEVE all this is correct, but feel free to correct me if i have made a mistake or overlooked something. Maybe this will help everyone figure out what will and will not work between years.

1988, 89, and 90- 700r4 trans. Nothing changed

1991, 92- Name changed to 4l60. No changes were made from the 700r4.

1993- first year for the 4l60-E. In its simplest terms, it is an electrically controlled 700r4. No PWM. 11 pin connector

1994- NOTHING changed between 93 and 94. Transmissions are directly interchangeable. No PWM. 11 pin connector

1995- Stand alone year. First year for PWM. Has an extra solinoid to control the PWM. 3-2 shift AND TCC are PWM in this trans. Has a different 3-2 control solonoid, and a extra wire in the harness to facilitate the PWM TCC lockup. Addition of a trans mounted neutral safety switch. If you put a 95 trans in a 94, it will not recognise the PWM circuits and will go in to limp mode. If you put a 94 trans in a 95, the check engine light will stay on, and the TCC and the 3-2 clutch pack will burn up after just a few miles. If you put a 96 trans in a 95, the 3-2 clutch pack will also burn up after a few miles. 95 has a 10-15 ohm TCC solenoid and a 10-15 ohm 3-2 solenoid. 12 pin connector.

1996- 3-2 shift is NON-PWM. It was changed back to a on/off arrangement. The 3-2 solenoid was changed to a 20-31 ohm unit. The 3-2 control valve was changed to "design 2". TCC is still PWM and uses the same 10-15 ohm solenoid as a 95. You can create a 95 trans out of a 96 or vice versa, but you have to change the 3-2 solenoid, the valve body, and the separator plate. If only the 3-2 solenoid is changed (and not the valve body casting), the transmission will 'cut loose' on 3-2 downshifts (shift from 3rd to neutral, then to 2nd as the accelerator is released). 12 pin connector.

1997 (one piece bell housing)- Identical to 1996. Direct swap. 12 pin connector.
1997 (two piece bell housing)- Identical to 1996 EXCEPT the addition of a transmission ground wire in the harness. This was done to address poor transmission grounding issues on the previous models. Can be interchanged with the 1 piece bell housing, but the ground wire should be added to the harness if you are using the 2 piece. 2 piece bell housing models also had hardened sun shells to address the sun shell fracture issue common to the previous model automatic transmissions. Identical in fit, function, and design, the material just changed. 13 pin connector.

1998- Identical to 1997 2 piece bell housing.

1999-up Identical to 1998 and 1997 2 piece bell housing

Are the only differences between a 99 an 2000 the input shaft an bellhousing

 

[mac8460]

Hi I need to replace the transmission in my daughters 1997 Jimmy 4x4. If I am reading these posts correctly 1996 and up ? transmissions will fit, I will just have to deal with the possibility of a 13 pin connector. Is that correct?
Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[95bucket]

I have been compiling this info for a while, finally got around to posting it. I could not find a thread on here that outlined the actual differences in the automatic transmissions of our trucks. Feel free to comment or ask questions if you need anything. I BELIEVE all this is correct, but feel free to correct me if i have made a mistake or overlooked something. Maybe this will help everyone figure out what will and will not work between years.

1988, 89, and 90- 700r4 trans. Nothing changed

1991, 92- Name changed to 4l60. No changes were made from the 700r4.

1993- first year for the 4l60-E. In its simplest terms, it is an electrically controlled 700r4. No PWM. 11 pin connector

1994- NOTHING changed between 93 and 94. Transmissions are directly interchangeable. No PWM. 11 pin connector

1995- Stand alone year. First year for PWM. Has an extra solinoid to control the PWM. 3-2 shift AND TCC are PWM in this trans. Has a different 3-2 control solonoid, and a extra wire in the harness to facilitate the PWM TCC lockup. Addition of a trans mounted neutral safety switch. If you put a 95 trans in a 94, it will not recognise the PWM circuits and will go in to limp mode. If you put a 94 trans in a 95, the check engine light will stay on, and the TCC and the 3-2 clutch pack will burn up after just a few miles. If you put a 96 trans in a 95, the 3-2 clutch pack will also burn up after a few miles. 95 has a 10-15 ohm TCC solenoid and a 10-15 ohm 3-2 solenoid. 12 pin connector.

1996- 3-2 shift is NON-PWM. It was changed back to a on/off arrangement. The 3-2 solenoid was changed to a 20-31 ohm unit. The 3-2 control valve was changed to "design 2". TCC is still PWM and uses the same 10-15 ohm solenoid as a 95. You can create a 95 trans out of a 96 or vice versa, but you have to change the 3-2 solenoid, the valve body, and the separator plate. If only the 3-2 solenoid is changed (and not the valve body casting), the transmission will 'cut loose' on 3-2 downshifts (shift from 3rd to neutral, then to 2nd as the accelerator is released). 12 pin connector.

1997 (one piece bell housing)- Identical to 1996. Direct swap. 12 pin connector.
1997 (two piece bell housing)- Identical to 1996 EXCEPT the addition of a transmission ground wire in the harness. This was done to address poor transmission grounding issues on the previous models. Can be interchanged with the 1 piece bell housing, but the ground wire should be added to the harness if you are using the 2 piece. 2 piece bell housing models also had hardened sun shells to address the sun shell fracture issue common to the previous model automatic transmissions. Identical in fit, function, and design, the material just changed. 13 pin connector.

1998- Identical to 1997 2 piece bell housing.

1999-up Identical to 1998 and 1997 2 piece bell housing

How bout acronyms spelled out for us noobs. PWM ?? TCC ??