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Hi all

I have an 88 G20 van and I noticed a significant PS fluid leak the other day that was coming from the top of the steering gear box.
I was able to determine that it was leaking around the stub shaft so I figured I'd get a reseal kit and see if I could replace the leaky seals.

I fought to separate the steering input shaft from the stub shaft for quite a while (rusty new england car) and then got the dust seal/washer (243, diagram at bottom of post) out with a pick.

The second seal (242) doesn't want to come out so I figured ok, I'll take the adjuster plug (240) out and maybe it'll be easier to get at the seal.

In order to get the adjuster plug out, I need to remove a lock ring (245) from the top of the adjuster plug. This is where the panic started to set in.

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I was able to get a pry bar hooked into one of the little notches in the lock ring and tried to beat it off with a hammer. All I ended up doing was driving the tip of the pry bar into the metal of the lock ring without budging it a millimeter. I'm not sure that thing is ever going to spin again.

I'm looking for any advice as to how to proceed.
It seems like I should probably take the steering box out of the vehicle and get it on a bench, but even then I'm not sure that lock ring is going to budge.

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FIRE!! fire fixes everything lol. No but really, I’d put it in a vice, go through a couple heat cycles on the lock ring. Probably going to need a big axle nut socket to apply even force around the nut instead of concentrated for on a corner.


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I'm not too familiar with the G20 Line of Power Steering Boxes but if things don't seem to work out for you and your financially able, your next best bet might either be the local bone yard or Remanufacture unit (Lares). Or one of these mentioned below, I know they are a little pricey. I myself would try and locate a Blue Top Brand but are very hard to find, Good luck!

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Thanks for the replies everyone! If the steering box every truly needs to be replaced I think I'll go with a blue top.

But I ended up walking away from it and came up with a plan that worked!

I was looking at the new seal and noticed that it looked like a scaled down version of the front main seal so I figured I'd try the same technique I used to remove that when I was rebuilding this engine.

I drilled two small holes on either side of the seal (it was thin metal covered in rubber) and then I twisted in a sheetrock screw a few threads. Then I was able to fit a claw hammer around the head of the screw and I was able to tug it out that way, going back and forth between the screws until it popped out.

Hammered the new seal into place with a 7/8 socket and a few extensions.

Leak solved!
 

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