I'm not buying a 2500

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So let's make an even stronger argument for me to buy a 2500. I desperately want to plow. For many reasons, but mainly, I'm a bored, laid off carpenter that won't see work till the snows gone. What's the best way to keep the front end up? Should I endeavour the 2500 torsion bar swap? Or should I drop the big(er) Bucks amd go timbrens?
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She sags 3.5" with the plow on. Any ideas?

Edit: would cranking the current torsion bar even farther help?

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So let's make an even stronger argument for me to buy a 2500. I desperately want to plow. For many reasons, but mainly, I'm a bored, laid off carpenter that won't see work till the snows gone. What's the best way to keep the front end up? Should I endeavour the 2500 torsion bar swap? Or should I drop the big(er) Bucks amd go timbrens?
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She sags 3.5" with the plow on. Any ideas?

Edit: would cranking the current torsion bar even farther help?

Welders can weld, and fitters can fit, but the porta-can-man knows his ****.

If timbrens are an option i would definatly go that route. Maybe turn the torsion bars up a couple more turns for the winter and then when the plow comes off turn them back down to where they were. Ive wanted a plow on my truck for a loooonnnnngggg time. My plan was always to get a set of gabriel air helper shocks (good for 1100lbs) and try to make a couple adaptors to fit them into the stock location. I havnt done alot of research on this so im not sure what it will take but i know they dont make one for the front of our trucks so some fab work is required. If you can figure out a way id love to see how you do it.

http://gabriel.com/light-vehicle/products/hijackers/

Edit: also i should add that im not sure if the stock shock mounts have the structural integrity to support what i want to do with these shocks. This is simply just an idea i have tossed around.
 

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If timbrens are an option i would definatly go that route. Maybe turn the torsion bars up a couple more turns for the winter and then when the plow comes off turn them back down to where they were. Ive wanted a plow on my truck for a loooonnnnngggg time. My plan was always to get a set of gabriel air helper shocks (good for 1100lbs) and try to make a couple adaptors to fit them into the stock location. I havnt done alot of research on this so im not sure what it will take but i know they dont make one for the front of our trucks so some fab work is required. If you can figure out a way id love to see how you do it.

http://gabriel.com/light-vehicle/products/hijackers/

Edit: also i should add that im not sure if the stock shock mounts have the structural integrity to support what i want to do with these shocks. This is simply just an idea i have tossed around.
I was told years ago that it is illegal to run air shocks on a steering axle. I never did confirm if that was true or not.
 

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I was told years ago that it is illegal to run air shocks on a steering axle. I never did confirm if that was true or not.
Im not sure ive never heard that before. I dont see why it would be. Ive seen guys who run bags on their ford and dodge plow trucks but those a sfa. This was my solution for ifs trucks
 

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Im not sure ive never heard that before. I dont see why it would be. Ive seen guys who run bags on their ford and dodge plow trucks but those a sfa. This was my solution for ifs trucks
The police officer that told me that said it was because if it suddenly deflated it might cause a sudden loss of control. This was back in the 70's. I wanted to put them on the front of my 4wd Blazer.
 

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The police officer that told me that said it was because if it suddenly deflated it might cause a sudden loss of control. This was back in the 70's. I wanted to put them on the front of my 4wd Blazer.
Interesting. Ill have to do some looking into that.

Edit: i literally couldnt find anything online. INDOT said it was perfectly legal so idk. I guess i would check with your states DOT officials. It seems like it would be fine since youll still have the t bars to catch it if one blew out. That and people run air bags instead of springs on their lowered trucks.
 
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Interesting. Ill have to do some looking into that.

Edit: i literally couldnt find anything online. INDOT said it was perfectly legal so idk. I guess i would check with your states DOT officials. It seems like it would be fine since youll still have the t bars to catch it if one blew out. That and people run air bags instead of springs on their lowered trucks.
I agree with you. 4wd GM's had leaf springs in the front back then. Even if the the shock lost all it's air pressure the springs would hold it up. I don't remember the whole conversation I had with him since it's been 35+ years but I know I didn't agree with him or his logic. I don't even know if there was a law like that. Anyway, good luck on your project.
 

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So let's make an even stronger argument for me to buy a 2500. I desperately want to plow. For many reasons, but mainly, I'm a bored, laid off carpenter that won't see work till the snows gone. What's the best way to keep the front end up? Should I endeavour the 2500 torsion bar swap? Or should I drop the big(er) Bucks amd go timbrens?
She sags 3.5" with the plow on. Any ideas?

Edit: would cranking the current torsion bar even farther help?

Welders can weld, and fitters can fit, but the porta-can-man knows his ****.

Timbrens work great, 2500 bars would also work.

The real main weak link in a 1500, especially in a plow truck, is the 4L60.
 
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