98 5.7 vortec 1 7/8 crimped - hurting power?

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For a stock 350, I bet there would be a less than a 3hp gain from swapping the skinnier Y pipe and exhaust. Same with shorty headers. However, if say it was a modified engine and long tube headers were installed, dented or not, it would definitely make a difference, so to put this in better terms, headers CAN make a difference, just depends on what they're going on. Stock, not so much, modified, absolutely.

With the same 1999 vortec L31 engine, stock compression ratio, albeit more camshaft, Brian Harrris at Harris Performance Inc, picked up 40 hp and 50 foot pounds at the rear wheels on a dyno, changing from the factory y-pipe ( same shorty headers for both tests ) to 2.5 inch pipes off the shorties going to a flowmaster Y. Both set ups used the same 3" thunderbolt catalytic convertor.

The project was called 'Black Magic' and details are on his website.

With an absolutely stock 350, you aren't going to pick up as much, but I would wager it is going to be noticeable. 8600 GVW systems are going to flow much better than the 1/2 ton exhaust.
 

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Impossible, everyone "knows" engines "need a little backpressure" to run lol.

A properly placed expansion ( muffler, convertor, resonator ) in the system can greatly increase the scavenging of an engine, like a two stroke pipe.

I recall reading about David Vizard making more power with smaller diameter primary headers on a healthy small block than common practice would have dictated. He was running 1 1/2, when others would typically run 1 3/4 or 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 stepped. IIRC, the key was having catalytic convertors directly off of the header collectors, this expansion prevented reversion pulses from pulling exhaust back into the cylinder when overlap occurs.
 

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A properly placed expansion ( muffler, convertor, resonator ) in the system can greatly increase the scavenging of an engine, like a two stroke pipe.

I recall reading about David Vizard making more power with smaller diameter primary headers on a healthy small block than common practice would have dictated. He was running 1 1/2, when others would typically run 1 3/4 or 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 stepped. IIRC, the key was having catalytic convertors directly off of the header collectors, this expansion prevented reversion pulses from pulling exhaust back into the cylinder when overlap occurs.

I've read many, many, many test's and studies. The topic has been beat to death across the auto world.

I absolutely believe properly designed exhaust component's increase power.

I also, absolutely believe that a stock Vortec 350, changing ONE component of the exhaust, and nothing else, will MAYBE result in about 10 rwhp. Probably not enough to notice, although the tone change may led people to feel it is significant.

As a bang for your buck mod, the Ypipe isn't it, that's my only assertion. Even the guy in the article did the Ypipe last.

I believe the cam holds this engine back far more than a pipe.
 

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With the same 1999 vortec L31 engine, stock compression ratio, albeit more camshaft, Brian Harrris at Harris Performance Inc, picked up 40 hp and 50 foot pounds at the rear wheels on a dyno, changing from the factory y-pipe ( same shorty headers for both tests ) to 2.5 inch pipes off the shorties going to a flowmaster Y. Both set ups used the same 3" thunderbolt catalytic convertor.

The project was called 'Black Magic' and details are on his website.

With an absolutely stock 350, you aren't going to pick up as much, but I would wager it is going to be noticeable. 8600 GVW systems are going to flow much better than the 1/2 ton exhaust.
So you're saying they tested a modified engine with the stock exhaust, then changed y pipe back and gained 40, or was that after everything combined
 

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Stock compression L31 with a slightly larger than stock cam. Same shorty headers, catalytic converter ( single ) and as far as I am aware, the same muffler and tailpipe.

The only thing changed was the factory Y was changed out for custom bent pipes off each header that went to a flowmaster Y. ( 2 into 1 merge )
 

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Replacing the Y with a custom Y was worth 40 hp and 50 foot pounds.
 

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Ok I skimmed through the article, there were many more upgrades made other than a slightly larger than stock cam, 40hp still seems high but makes more sense with all the other modifications
 
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