Suede covered dash

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Anyone have a covered dash? Or pics of one that's covered? Getting a new dash but it's tan and I'd rather it be a different color. Been considering smoothing and painting it but then I thought about covering it in suede or something. Just want to see pics first or hear people's opinions on it. Thanks!!

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Are you wanting to re-cover the whole dash, or just a top cover like those aftermarket ones?
Covering a dash in suede would be possible, but it'd also be a big bunch o'work! Mostly due to getting it all the parts to fit & work properly with the added bulk that the suede would add. Specifically around the gauge pod, the radio opening + those vents & the like.
It wouldn't be able to be done in a single piece. That stuff isn't able to be molded, so the cover would have to be made in sections & then sewn together so that it would fit all those contours.
I've done many dashes for other vehicles, but usually in collector or specialty vehicles where their value justifies the cost of the job. As there is no pattern for a job such as this, each piece has to be fitted individually, then sewn together in order to for the combination of pieces to fit with each other & the dash. Last one I did was one for a DeTomaso Pantera. A lot fewer contours than a GMT400 dash, but even still, it required 17 individual pieces of leather & by the time my labor was calculated in, the customer had a bill for $1000.00. That included the leather $$$.
Additionally, the dash is an area that's subject to some extremes. Not sure how that suede would react to that constant exposure to UV-rays, the heat from the sun in the summer or the cold in the winter. The black suede that I've seen that is any where kinda of old usually has turned to a dark purple or dark brown.
In other words, pretty intensive, intricate work, labor-wise, with a material that's questionable in it's endurance.
If I was to attempt something like this, I'd be more inclined to use a Marine Grade vinyl, (mold & mildew resistant, U.V. stabilized) or (feeling spendy?) a similarily treated leather.

Here's an alternative to sanding/painting or recovering in suede/vinyl/leather.

http://www.gmt400.com/threads/how-to-dye-plastic-vinyl-leather-carpets.21865/
 

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The more I think about it, the more I realize it's probably a bad idea or just going to be hard as hell. Might just wrap the pillar pieces and paint/dye the rest

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It's easier to dye it then smooth it and paint it. I've done 2 smoother and painted dashes so far and I have at least 60hrs in each.
 

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It's easier to dye it then smooth it and paint it. I've done 2 smoother and painted dashes so far and I have at least 60hrs in each.
How did you smooth them? 60 hrs seems like quite a bit of time just for a dash.

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Sanded the texture down with 180 on a DA then primed it. Sanded it with 320 on a DA then primed it again let it sit for a few days then prime again and re-sand with 320. The plastic absorbs the primer in most cases so its better to prime it 3 times.

Both of mine look like glass and I am happy with them but they take a lot of time to make look right. I have probably 200+ hrs in the interior of my copper truck with all the smoothed and painted panels.
 

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See that was my plan. But then I wondered if I could just scuff it real good and then prime in and with a few good coats, prime the texture out of it. Then block it and re-prime it.
Did you use any adhesion promoter?

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That wont work if you pile the primer on it will be to thick and eventually it will crack. I didn't use an adhesive promoter.

I've seen one at the world of wheels where they just painted and cleared over the texture and it looked absolutely terrible.
 

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Are you wanting to re-cover the whole dash, or just a top cover like those aftermarket ones?
Covering a dash in suede would be possible, but it'd also be a big bunch o'work! Mostly due to getting it all the parts to fit & work properly with the added bulk that the suede would add. Specifically around the gauge pod, the radio opening + those vents & the like.
It wouldn't be able to be done in a single piece. That stuff isn't able to be molded, so the cover would have to be made in sections & then sewn together so that it would fit all those contours.
I've done many dashes for other vehicles, but usually in collector or specialty vehicles where their value justifies the cost of the job. As there is no pattern for a job such as this, each piece has to be fitted individually, then sewn together in order to for the combination of pieces to fit with each other & the dash. Last one I did was one for a DeTomaso Pantera. A lot fewer contours than a GMT400 dash, but even still, it required 17 individual pieces of leather & by the time my labor was calculated in, the customer had a bill for $1000.00. That included the leather $$$.
Additionally, the dash is an area that's subject to some extremes. Not sure how that suede would react to that constant exposure to UV-rays, the heat from the sun in the summer or the cold in the winter. The black suede that I've seen that is any where kinda of old usually has turned to a dark purple or dark brown.
In other words, pretty intensive, intricate work, labor-wise, with a material that's questionable in it's endurance.
If I was to attempt something like this, I'd be more inclined to use a Marine Grade vinyl, (mold & mildew resistant, U.V. stabilized) or (feeling spendy?) a similarily treated leather.

Here's an alternative to sanding/painting or recovering in suede/vinyl/leather.

http://www.gmt400.com/threads/how-to-dye-plastic-vinyl-leather-carpets.21865/
Marine vinyl.... Is that stuff stretchy? I picked up a 96 dash and want to cover it
 

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Has a 2-way stretch from side-side across, but not lengthwise. Some vinyls are stretchier than others.
Marine vinyl has been treated for mold & mildew resistance, & is U.V. stabilized. Other than that, it's just like reg. vinyl.
There is one vinyl that I use for snow machines & some Moto seats that has a 6-way stretch. Stuff's like a rubber band! Has a cold crack level of -40*F. But, it only comes in black & has a bit of a weird finished texture. Tough as nails though.
 
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