What should starter solonoid voltage be?

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Hello fellas. I was wondering if anyone knows what voltage I should have at my starter solonoid. I currently have 12.2 volts at the ignition wire coming from the ignition switch when not connected to the starter solonoid. As soon as I connect the wire to the solonoid amd check while cranking I get 10.5v. Is this normal?
 

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Yea, depends on the cranking amp rating of the battery and what condition the battery is in. But yea, turning over the engine will drop the voltage quite a bit. I wouldn't be concerned with that reading.
 

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Ok thx. I was kind of concerned due to powermaster saying their starters needed minimum 10.5v at solonoid to start. I removed the powermaster for now and put the ac Delco mini starter. Also do you guys know if I put a Ford relay in my rig will it give it the full 12v at the solonoid or will it be the same voltage drop? Also my battery is new 880cca duralast with 12.8v while truck is off.
 

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A starter draws so much power its essentially a dead short to the battery (almost like putting a wrench between the pos and neg terminals). I doubt a different relay would do anything. I wouldn't worry about it unless there is an underlying problem that you are trying to fix that we dont know about?
 

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While I've never watched cranking voltage, that does seem a bit low. Have you had the battery tested? Entirely possible it's a bit weak and still able to throw 12+ volts with no load.
 

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While I've never watched cranking voltage, that does seem a bit low. Have you had the battery tested? Entirely possible it's a bit weak and still able to throw 12+ volts with no load.
While I've never watched cranking voltage, that does seem a bit low. Have you had the battery tested? Entirely possible it's a bit weak and still able to throw 12+ volts with no load.
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While I've never watched cranking voltage, that does seem a bit low. Have you had the battery tested? Entirely possible it's a bit weak and still able to throw 12+ volts with nourish I have a problem with
A starter draws so much power its essentially a dead short to the battery (almost like putting a wrench between the pos and neg terminals). I doubt a different relay would do anything. I wouldn't worry about it unless there is an underlying problem that you are trying to fix that we dont know about?
yeah i have a problem I’m trying to fix. My 454 is constantly breaking starters and flex plates. I have a new battery,all ground straps,2g power wire to starter,flex plate,starter,both ignition switches and i ran new 10g ignition wire to starter solonoid. I just want to make sure I don’t hear that loud grind and ruin my starter and or flex plate. Also new starter bolts.
 

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ok, your breaking flexplates. When you put in the new starter(s?) did you shim them correctly or just throw them in without checking gap or engagement depth?
 

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ok, your breaking flexplates. When you put in the new starter(s?) did you shim them correctly or just throw them in without checking gap or engagement depth?
Yes sir. My mechanic put them in. Actually two different mechanics. I thought maybe the first guy is doing something wrong. It will start just fine like a new car. No problems until maybe a month or so. And my truck isn’t a daily driver either.
 

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Starter pinion gear to flywheel / flex plate spec is 0.60". The voltage issue depends on several things that should be checked anyway from time to time. Voltage drop is the best way to get quick, accurate reading that tell you exactly what is going on. A digital multi-meter (DMM), check battery voltage while a buddy cranks over. If less than 11 volts and no current amp-clamp to check starter draw, do a voltage drop from battery terminal to starter B+. If meter lets a backward, it reads the same, just with a (-) sign in front of it. Clip them on and crank over to supply current as voltage drop requires a circuit have current, or it won't work. 0.400 volts or 1/2 volt as this is a high amp circuit, like a snow plow, alternator when full-fielded or lift-gate. The voltage to the "S" terminal at the solenoid has a long trip to make. Voltage drop works here also, even if voltage is pulled low during cranking. A voltage drop from battery to large fuses at relay center should be low like 0.050 - 0.090 volts. If not, clean and use dielectric grease upon assembly. Voltage drop from fuse/relay center to starter switch with same low drop. If not, back track connections to perhaps bulkhead/firewall connector. If ok, check voltage drop from ignition switch to PPL wire on starter solenoid. Once again, the lower the better, but size of wire and length plus condition effects voltage loss. Has this been intermittent, just one day ever since or since part change? A current amp-clamp would show a lot about the condition of the starter with the acceptation of engine mechanical. YouTube has good sources to learn, but I feel naked without my Fluke 87 type 5. This meter has a "Min-Max" feature that records the reading. Many lower priced amp-clamp with digital read out, tested against my Fluke amp-clamp where very close and accurate. They are very handy to have, but a good DMM and your ability to do a voltage drop will help a bunch. Best of luck!
 
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