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MrTwstr
12-16-2010, 09:00 PM
Hi guys.
Butch directed me here, cool site!
Thought you guys might be interested in a few pics of my truck.
2000 K3500. I just finished the front, still need to finish the rear.
I've got 6" rear Deavers on the way and a set of Sulastic Shackles. Also putting in a set of the Hydraulic 2011 rear Cab Mounts.
It's already a HUGE improvement in ride quality and handling compared to the 6" RCD IFS.

Here's a before and a few after pics.....

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2273&d=1292551120

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2271&d=1292551120

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2270&d=1292551120

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2269&d=1292551120

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2272&d=1292551120

MrTwstr
12-16-2010, 09:06 PM
Here's a couple more.

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2274&d=1292551581

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2275&d=1292551585

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2276&d=1292551589

DRAGGIN95
12-16-2010, 09:07 PM
Very nice truck!

Butch
12-16-2010, 09:15 PM
Glad to see you made it over here :High 5: and again the truck is sick.

Edit: What coils are you running? I assume progressive rate?

Nuke
12-17-2010, 04:20 AM
Thank you for the wonderful new porn.

badazzbulldog
12-17-2010, 07:59 AM
is that a kit or did you fabricate everything yourself.

Butch
12-17-2010, 09:43 AM
Its a kit that his company manufactures...

http://www.triple-xtraction.com/

D-Max SAS build with the same kit...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=796788

Greg
12-17-2010, 12:47 PM
Damn that truck is sick. So you manufacture these kits yourself?

nodark
12-17-2010, 01:17 PM
sweet

MrTwstr
12-17-2010, 01:35 PM
Damn that truck is sick. So you manufacture these kits yourself?

Yes sir!

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2280&d=1292610904

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2279&d=1292610901

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2278&d=1292610899

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2277&d=1292610894

Butch
12-17-2010, 01:42 PM
How much flex are you seeing out of this setup? I'm wanting to go a 4link with panhard similar to your kit since my truck still sees a lot of road time but would still like to see a good amount of flex out of it when I do hit the trails.

also those Yukon jacks are nice I'm going to have to build me a set or two.

MrTwstr
12-17-2010, 01:50 PM
Glad to see you made it over here :High 5: and again the truck is sick.

Edit: What coils are you running? I assume progressive rate?

Thanks Butch. Cool site for sure!
Yeah.... Progressive rate coils made by ICON.

Thanks everyone for the compliments. I hardly drove the truck before, now I can't leave it parked. Sure brought the ol back to life.

MrTwstr
12-17-2010, 02:00 PM
How much flex are you seeing out of this setup? I'm wanting to go a 4link with panhard similar to your kit since my truck still sees a lot of road time but would still like to see a good amount of flex out of it when I do hit the trails.

also those Yukon jacks are nice I'm going to have to build me a set or two.

I haven't measured it yet but it's quite a bit, at least double compared to the IFS. I use a 10" travel shock.
I'm gonna trim the stock bumper for now then build a custom one when I get time.
The tires are 38-15.5-20 and the kit gives a subatantial increase in turning radius so it rubs pretty good.
The kit extends the wheel base a couple inches, but with such a wide tire an a lot of compression durring articulation it rubs.

Those Stands are a custom set that I built, I frikn love them! One of my employee's put a Yukon sticker on them for some stupid reason. Guess I'm not workin them hard enough if they have time for that.... LOL

Butch
12-17-2010, 02:12 PM
I haven't measured it yet but it's quite a bit, at least double compared to the IFS. I use a 10" travel shock.
I'm gonna trim the stock bumper for now then build a custom one when I get time.
The tires are 38-15.5-20 and the kit gives a subatancial increase in turning radius so it rubs pretty good.
The kit extends the wheel base a couple inches, but with such a wide tire an a lot of compression durring articulation it rubs.

Those Stands are a custom set that I built, I frikn love them! One of my employee's put a Yukon sticker on them for some stupid reason. Guess I'm not workin them hard enough if they have time for that.... LOL

Thanks, if you don't mind me asking how much is the kit? PM me if you'd like. I'm still planning on doing a SAS in the next year.

lol Yeah I'm going to have to build me a set, I like the handles on the jam nut :High 5:

MrTwstr
12-17-2010, 03:07 PM
Send me you're E-Mail address and I'll E-Mail all the info.

lavenderbrothers@aol.com is mine.

Butch
12-17-2010, 03:18 PM
Email sent, you'll recognize the name.

MrTwstr
12-17-2010, 06:10 PM
I just installed the 2011 rear cab mounts and test drove it.....
HUGE difference! No more bounce on the freeway over expansion joints.
Could not be happier. Best $130.00 I've spent on the truck!

Chevy-Art
12-17-2010, 07:03 PM
Is that something that just lifted trucks benefit from? Or can I do mine? Part #?

Nuke
12-17-2010, 07:59 PM
How difficult is it to do the rear cab mounts and what is involved.

Mike
12-17-2010, 08:32 PM
Welcome! The truck looks great and that kit looks like what people have been dreaming about being able to buy for a gmt400 for years!

MrTwstr
12-17-2010, 09:16 PM
How difficult is it to do the rear cab mounts and what is involved.

Is that something that just lifted trucks benefit from? Or can I do mine? Part #?

Anyone that owns a Crew Cab, or even a Extended Cab (anything with 6 Cab Mounts, lifted or not) you absolutely HAVE to do it! It's by far the biggest ride improvement, for the least amount of money you can get!

Ever drive on a Concrete Freeway with expansion joints? Where the truck bounces so bad you can't even hold a conversation with you're buddy next to you or hold a cup of Coffee in the truck?
I think the NBS Crew Cabs are worse than the OBS, but I'm telling you it was a great improvement on mine!

All you have to do is remove both rear Cab Mounts and install the Rear Cab Mounts that come stock on a 2011 3500 Crew Cab.
They're Hydraulic, and work absolutely amazing!

Upper Mount 25791031 Qty 2
Lower Mount 25791032 Qty 2
Washer 15854745 Qty 2
All the parts cost me $130.00 (shop cost) and took about 10 minutes to install.

Butch
12-18-2010, 02:00 PM
Great info, I look forward to doing this.

DRAGGIN95
12-18-2010, 02:03 PM
Very interesting, I may have to give theses a try!

Chevy-Art
12-18-2010, 07:23 PM
Thanks for the info, I was hoping I could do it on a regular cab.

MIHELA
12-28-2010, 11:57 AM
Looks like GM has some new numbers for the 2011.
25875218 for the upper
20898141 for the lower
15854745 for the retainer
Looks like they are a little bit cheaper as well. I had the other numbers in my hands a few minutes ago, they are definitely hydraulic mounts. Did they change the service mounts for the GMT 800s to hydraulic? Also were there any issues due to the smaller mount bolts on the GMT 400?

slim
12-29-2010, 11:27 AM
wow that is one sick pickup you got! very very nice! so those cab mounts won't work with a regular cab? if not, why?

dieselscout80
01-04-2011, 07:03 AM
I just installed the 2011 rear cab mounts and test drove it.....
HUGE difference! No more bounce on the freeway over expansion joints.
Could not be happier. Best $130.00 I've spent on the truck!

It looks like you have a body lift. Do you think they fit without a body lift too?

Butch
01-04-2011, 10:00 AM
I don't see why they wouldn't

dieselscout80
01-04-2011, 12:34 PM
I don't see why they wouldn't

The metal tabs/ears that hang down from the cab in this pic are why I was asking.
http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2281&d=1292627592

Butch
01-04-2011, 12:53 PM
Those tabs serve no purpose, simply cut and buff

Swaggerwagon
01-04-2011, 08:13 PM
wow...just wow..........http://smiliesftw.com/x/bowdown.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

Aloicious
01-07-2011, 07:15 AM
I just installed the 2011 rear cab mounts and test drove it.....
HUGE difference! No more bounce on the freeway over expansion joints.
Could not be happier. Best $130.00 I've spent on the truck!

you did this on your '97 GMT400? I was under the impression that these could only be fit on the gmt800 trucks, I we can do this to ours, I'm all over it!

borahshadow
01-12-2011, 07:26 PM
you did this on your '97 GMT400? I was under the impression that these could only be fit on the gmt800 trucks, I we can do this to ours, I'm all over it!

Yeah if it makes as big of a difference as you say that would be a super cheap way to improve the ride. It seems almost too easy if it really fits. My local dealership quoted me $44 ea for the 2011 rear cab mounts! I just want to double check that it can really be done on a 97 GMT400.

Aloicious
01-12-2011, 08:08 PM
Yeah if it makes as big of a difference as you say that would be a super cheap way to improve the ride. It seems almost too easy if it really fits. My local dealership quoted me $44 ea for the 2011 rear cab mounts! I just want to double check that it can really be done on a 97 GMT400.

well, on his first post it says he put it in a 2000 K3500 crew cab, but it is still a GMT400. for the price, its almost worth just giving it a shot. I think I may do that this spring/summer....

dieselscout80
01-13-2011, 07:34 AM
Hi guys.
Butch directed me here, cool site!
Thought you guys might be interested in a few pics of my truck.
2000 K3500. I just finished the front, still need to finish the rear.
I've got 6" rear Deavers on the way and a set of Sulastic Shackles. Also putting in a set of the Hydraulic 2011 rear Cab Mounts.
It's already a HUGE improvement in ride quality and handling compared to the 6" RCD IFS.

Here's a before and a few after pics.....

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2273&d=1292551120

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2271&d=1292551120

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2270&d=1292551120

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2269&d=1292551120

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2272&d=1292551120


How close to stock height can you get this kit to?

Is 1" to 2" above stock height possible?

dieselscout80
01-13-2011, 07:35 AM
Hi guys.
Butch directed me here, cool site!
Thought you guys might be interested in a few pics of my truck.
2000 K3500. I just finished the front, still need to finish the rear.
I've got 6" rear Deavers on the way and a set of Sulastic Shackles. Also putting in a set of the Hydraulic 2011 rear Cab Mounts.
It's already a HUGE improvement in ride quality and handling compared to the 6" RCD IFS.

Here's a before and a few after pics.....

http://www.gmt400.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2273&d=1292551120


How close to stock height can you get this kit to?

Is 1" to 2" above stock height possible?

dieselscout80
01-13-2011, 07:38 AM
How close to stock height can you get this kit to?

Is 1" to 2" above stock height possible?

Butch
01-13-2011, 11:07 AM
Realistically my guess would be close to 3-4" its hard to get to the height of a stock IFS setup when on a straight axle since you limit up travel drastically.

MrTwstr
01-14-2011, 01:14 PM
I weighed my truck before I started, it was 6760#'s.
Finally got time to weigh it after the SFA.
It weighs 7150 #'s now.
I know the Tires and Wheels that I put on it are about 10#'s each heavier than the 37's.

So, the conversion adds about 350#'s.

I'll reply to the height questions asap.

mik2500
01-18-2011, 11:34 AM
Is this kit designed around a dodge aam axle? or do you have to custom build mounts on lets say a ford style front i thought of using a dodge axle and building a rad. arm setup but seeing the four link makes me think..... now that you have the fourlink kit in the works would you have god rad. arm or is the link just as good?

MrTwstr
01-18-2011, 05:05 PM
It uses a 2005 or newer F-250/350 Super Duty axle.
I have a Radius Arm kit planned but it's probly going to be a while before it's done.
4 link is a much better system than a Raius Arm.

dieselscout80
01-19-2011, 09:42 AM
It uses a 2005 or newer F-250/350 Super Duty axle.
I have a Radius Arm kit planned but it's probly going to be a while before it's done.
4 link is a much better system than a Raius Arm.

Does it use the Ford SD 8 lug wheels or the standard 8 lug pattern that GM uses?

MrTwstr
01-19-2011, 12:12 PM
I convert the Hubs and Rotors to GM bolt pattern and GM Studs.

bigwavedave
02-10-2011, 06:48 PM
This thing is bad ass....Want to sell it? Lol

bluchevy
02-15-2011, 12:28 PM
How much for the kit?

BURBAN GUY
02-15-2011, 01:03 PM
Wow! Great looking truck.

MrTwstr
02-17-2011, 12:50 AM
How much for the kit?



Shoot me an E-Mail and I'll send you all the info.

lavenderbrothers@aol.com

Thanks!
:cheers:
Toby.

MrTwstr
02-17-2011, 12:51 AM
This thing is bad ass....Want to sell it? Lol

Everything is for sale! :evillol:

MrTwstr
02-17-2011, 12:53 AM
Wow! Great looking truck.

Thanks! I'm fixn a bunch of dents that were in the bed and repainting it right now.
Planning on some kinda Vinyl Wrap with the xXx logo.

Solid94
02-21-2011, 06:26 AM
just curious what size tires are you running?

bigwavedave
02-21-2011, 08:21 PM
He's running 38s

DroppedAsAChild
02-21-2011, 09:30 PM
WOW this is a baddass truck. Awesome kit. Will those 2011 bodymounts work on my lowered OBS ?

MrTwstr
02-21-2011, 11:41 PM
just curious what size tires are you running?

38-15.5-20

MrTwstr
02-21-2011, 11:44 PM
WOW this is a baddass truck. Awesome kit. Will those 2011 bodymounts work on my lowered OBS ?

Unless you've done something to the stock body mounts, yes.
Do the extended cabs use 6 Cab Mounts, not counting the Radiator Support?

Solid94
02-22-2011, 06:59 AM
Okay thanks. I'm trying to get some tire ideas soon because mine are starting to wear out

MrTwstr
02-22-2011, 11:32 AM
No problemo.

Mine are Hankook Dynapro M/T's. I frikn LOVE them so far. Super quiet and smoothe. Haven't wheeled on them yet but I'd bet they'll work great.

DroppedAsAChild
02-22-2011, 06:02 PM
Unless you've done something to the stock body mounts, yes.
Do the extended cabs use 6 Cab Mounts, not counting the Radiator Support?

Im not sure. These bodymounts wont lift my truck up at all right ?

MrTwstr
02-22-2011, 11:25 PM
Im not sure. These bodymounts wont lift my truck up at all right ?

They wont lift it. They are the exact same height as the stock Body Bushings.
You can't use them if the rig only has 4 Cab Mounts though. They're Hydraulic and intended to replace the rear most Cab Mounts on a Crew Cab, but could do the same on anything with 6 Cab Mounts.
You can't use them on a rig with only 4 Cab Mounts, they would just squish down, and not float like they are designed to.

MaXXis85
02-24-2011, 02:29 PM
So you only put the Hydo body mounts on the farthest two mounting locations?

MrTwstr
02-24-2011, 11:25 PM
So you only put the Hydo body mounts on the farthest two mounting locations?

Exactly.

MrTwstr
02-27-2011, 11:34 PM
Well, this one's pretty much finished. I've done everything I wanted to do to it.
I just bought another truck, so I'm on to my next project.

This one's FOR SALE 22K OBO

PM or call if anyone's interested.
831-899-2144

DRAGGIN95
02-27-2011, 11:42 PM
Nice truck, good luck with sale!

CodyB
03-02-2011, 09:32 PM
Do you do a SAS kit for the NBS Tahoe/Suburban platform as well? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess this kit can at least be adapted to do so since someone fit it under a Duramax NBS, but I don't know if the Tahoes or Burbs changed anything up under there.

1ugly88
03-03-2011, 07:24 AM
that truck is AWESOME!!! i'd love to sas my truck like that.

MrTwstr
03-04-2011, 10:23 PM
Do you do a SAS kit for the NBS Tahoe/Suburban platform as well? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess this kit can at least be adapted to do so since someone fit it under a Duramax NBS, but I don't know if the Tahoes or Burbs changed anything up under there.

Yeah, I have a kit for that.
Shoot me an E-Mail if you're interested.
lavenderbrothers@aol.com

dkh_524
12-26-2012, 04:58 AM
nice truck!

grantxurismo
01-18-2013, 01:42 PM
super slick !
great build man
i'll have to check out xxx

SIKAZPHUC
03-01-2013, 12:31 AM
Sick system......well done.

EWheeler
04-21-2013, 08:22 PM
Looks like GM has some new numbers for the 2011.
25875218 for the upper
20898141 for the lower
15854745 for the retainer
Looks like they are a little bit cheaper as well. I had the other numbers in my hands a few minutes ago, they are definitely hydraulic mounts. Did they change the service mounts for the GMT 800s to hydraulic? Also were there any issues due to the smaller mount bolts on the GMT 400?

Just wanted to reply that these parts are NOT for the hydraulic body mounts, rather the stock rubber mounts. Found out the hard way, there's $130 down the drain.

The correct part numbers are:

25994881 cushion
25791032 cushion
15854745 retainer

The retainers shouldn't be needed as I was able to use my old retainers.

Hope this keeps someone from buying the wrong parts.

Evan

Aloicious
04-22-2013, 08:22 AM
Just wanted to reply that these parts are NOT for the hydraulic body mounts, rather the stock rubber mounts. Found out the hard way, there's $130 down the drain.

The correct part numbers are:

25994881 cushion
25791032 cushion
15854745 retainer

The retainers shouldn't be needed as I was able to use my old retainers.

Hope this keeps someone from buying the wrong parts.

Evan


yeah, GM changed parts numbers a few times on them, here's a write up I did on the mount swap that might help: http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/bodymounts.html